So, I made my first YoYo

Let me try. So wind of your yoyo. Once you got it wound up, put it firmly in your palm, and grip it.

TIP: Make sure the yoyo string is on your desired finger (middle preferably).

Now the thing is, when you have it on your palm, you want to make sure of one thing: When the yoyo is gripped, make sure the string is going out the yoyo ON THE TOP SIDE and to your finger. DO NOT have the string come from udner the yoyo to your finger. It messes up the bind, and you will have to do it the other way.

-Now, make a muscle. I assume you got this down. Throw it out and down, as if you were releasing the flex.

TIP: when you throw it, retain the muscle. Don’t turn your hand down until the yoyo has slid forward and out of your hand

-Next, when it is spinning (you might want to practice the throw a couple of times to make sure it spins for a long time), take your LEFT HAND (assuming you’re right handed), left hand index ffinger, and place it in front of the string. Preferably in the middle of the length of the string in front.

-Then, bring your throw hand (the one the string is attached to) down IN FRONT THE YOYO, NOT BEHIND.

Tip: Right now, what you should look like is this (from your view): O = yoyo, d = LEFT HAND INDEX, b = right hand

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Now, bring your right finger in front and under the yoyo, and pull up

The videos do it much better, and I wonder why I typed it out now ::slight_smile:

But that’s it

You’re plenty smart enough haha. Having some stuff on Mars shows your intelligence and competency as an engineer :slight_smile: Yoyoing is just an acquired skill, no one gets it on their first try. Try fake binds. They’re a lot easier to do and you will pretty much never get a knot doing it.

Whoever came up with the term “fake” bind? That there is a bind, period.

The video I linked to is the best one I’ve ever seen for explaining why a bind works. He also recommends pinching like the so-called “fake” bind.

I always pinch. Always. Except for trick binds that do not permit or require it (like a Guy Wright or suicide bind or something)… but other than that, pinch that mother. Watch the Dazzlin’ Dave video. Sure he’s not all fancy and modern and his video isn’t all slick and overproduced which makes you a bit wary at first. But he’s a legit yoyo teacher and that’s the best video you’re going to find on the subject.

I usually cross the strings and throw the yoyo out

I’ll play more tomorrow.
The shutter, has me shut out.

A DV888 comes back.

Best chance is to find someone local that can show you the basics

I do both. I agree with you that it’s not a “fake” bind, but is just nicknamed that because it’s more beginner friendly.

Lots of Japanese throwers don’t pinch on their binds. Idk

I don’t even know how to pinch a bind. I just make the loop and then slide my finger out when it grabs on, and it never gives me any problems.

Just keep practicing man, eventually it’ll click. I went for at least a couple of months of unresponsive play till I learned how to bind or restart a yoyo. I used to just throw it until it ran out of spin and then wind it up again. ;D

The best advice that I can give, is to screw up on purpose. What I mean by that, is get the yoyo into the proper position for binding. Then, pinch the string looped over your non-throw hand pointer. Then, feed that pinched loop into the yoyo by raising your throw hand and lowering your non-throw hand to the yoyo. Now, this is where you screw up, don’t pull your non-throw hand away. Exaggerated the binding motion by slowing it down, and just keep holding that pinch with your non-throw hand. As you feed it into the yoyo, it will start to loop around properly for the bind, and you’ll feel the friction start to build. Just let the bind happen while still pinching, as even with a strong throw, it won’t hurt much to let it bind up and hit your non-throw hand.

Repeat that until you get the feeling of how it starts to feel when it starts binding. Then, work on doing it faster and more smoothly as you remove your non-throw fingers so that it actually binds and returns to your throw hand.

I just think getting the feel of that “binding point” is the hardest part. So by “screwing up” and letting it hit your non-throw hand, you’ll get a feel for that binding point faster.

Gambit, that doesn’t work on every yoyo or setup. Sometimes the string just slides along without feeding in for the bind. The pinch works every time, is necessary for binding at extreme low speeds (heck, you can even do it with the yoyo stopped once you have the touch), and gives tight snag-free binds every time.

Sure, you can learn to get by without perfection… :wink:

Are you trying to say that it’s impossible to bind successfully without pinching? Because I know plenty of players that do it all the time so your argument is invalid!

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Ok seriously, I’m not advocating the pinch-less bind in any way, it’s just the way I’ve always done it. That being said you’ve got me second guessing myself now and I don’t have a yoyo on me to double check the difference between the two. I think I may be pinching when it comes to lower-speed binds when you’re pretty much manually rolling it up the string but I’m sure I don’t do it otherwise… I really never give it much thought. As long as the yoyo comes back to me I’m happy. :stuck_out_tongue:

Haha! Nice one. :smiley:

Yeah, I don’t “plan” the pinch, it just happens. I would have to consciously NOT pinch it’s such second nature at this point. For giggles, I tried non-pinching for the yoyo I had on-hand and it worked fine. Felt really weird because that’s not my muscle memory at work… but it worked fine.

When I see beginners learning to bind, they miss so often when they don’t do the pinch. “It’s just sliding through!” … “Coz you’re not pinching like I TOLD YOU TO, YOU MUPPET!” (nah, I don’t call them muppets or yell at them…;))The pinch really makes it consistent.

All this talk of pinching…

Good thing I’m wearing green! ;D

Sorry about the thread derailment, but as I was walking back from lunch it occurred to me in a flash:

“Oh wait. They probably think I pinch for sidestyle binds, too!”

All my yammering about pinching is all related to standard frontstyle bind. The most reliable bind there is, with added pinching for even more consistency.

I can’t even remember the last time I did a “standard” sidestyle bind. When I’m playing sidestyle, it’s all “fancy” binds.

Dang, I missed again.

My math is usually better than this.

Runs good though.

With a Generic bearing, I can get it to return, with the bearing from the Shutter, I can’t.

So, I’m making progress.

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Turns out my math was good.
I just didn’t expect Bearing, Screw, O-Rings, and string to add almost 4 grams!

Halves each weigh 34 grams by themselves.

That looks great

Could we get some closeup pics?

Is there an easier way to post pics than hosting them elsewhere, and linking to them?

How did you make it

Here they are but I can’t see posting tons of pics in the future if it’s such a pain in the butt to do it!

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