RIP YoYoNation forums (again). How can we archive yo-yo info so it's available to future generations?

yoyonation.net is down, not sure how long it’s been. It was such a good resource for old stuff and being able to look through all my old messages. :frowning_face:

If whoever set the archive up last time still has a database for it, I wonder if there’s any way to store it with the Internet Archive? Though I could see that being problematic since if the database backup was available, whoever had access would be able to read everyone’s messages with personal information like addresses from BST deals. But I bet workarounds could be thought of, like dropping the messages table from the publicly available backup.

It also has me wondering about the fate of this forum. Nothing lasts forever so I’m hoping there’s some sort of contingency in place to archive this forum if the day comes that it needs to shut down. If anything, this is more important than ever since a lot of the major threads that were available on old yo-yoing sites have been re-posted here and if this place were lost, would be gone for good.

One ad-hoc method I’ve used while filling out the YWET yoyo wiki page is to archive specific posts here using the Wayback Machine so the specifically cited information will at least still be around in case YoYoExpert ever ceases to exist. But that also has me thinking about how we could archive the YoYoWiki in case Fandom ever decides to shut down. Definitely a rabbits hole…

Anyways, I’m starting to ramble but I think this is a good discussion to have while this site is still healthy and active, even if not as active before social media took over.

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I’ve got a program on my computer that can download an entire website including all it’s pages, not sure how efficient it’ll be on a forum as I’ve only used it to save the Heaven’s Gate site to my hard drive. Once I get back to my computer I can get the name of it.

Ivan

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You can use wget to do something like that. An ideal backup though would be the database itself instead of full HTML grabs of a page, would be smaller file size to store and since Discourse is open source it’d be able to be restored into a (read-only) archive site. Regardless, while personal archives are a great first step, they’re also a single point of failure which is why I think involving something like the Internet Archive is key.

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Yoyonation is owned by JD. Maybe try reaching out to him.

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Thanks! His store is still up which is a good sign so maybe the hosting bill of YYN just lapsed and the data is still out there. I’ll try shooting him an email to see what he says :slight_smile:

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From JD about a week ago on FB:

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Thanks for posting this, I was about to do the same. Hopefully it’s back up soon

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Ahhhh that makes sense, I did notice a good (but surprisingly not overwhelming) amount of spam when viewing it. I’m not super familiar with the SMF software it used but I wonder if there’s a way to put it into read-only mode when it comes back up to prevent this?

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That would be ideal. That’s how it was 5-ish years ago but recently you could still register, post, etc.

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That’s what happened to the old Extreme Spin website. When the store shut down the board admin left it online for some time but basically left it alone. By the time it shut down it was so full of spam - probably the newest 200-300 posts in any category were spam. I don’t know if he made a conscious effort to shut it down or just let the domain registration expire.

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