You always have the most interesting (batshit crazy) takes.
Bearing seat posts are damaged because someone acts like an idiot, not because it’s of chinese make. If you can’t pulll a bearing straight out i don’t know if you’re fit to yoyo
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Unscrewing the yoyo normally will cause wear on a lot of yoyos.
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Even then it takes a long time for the most part. I have yet to have a yoyo get that way, but I’d believe it
Hi! This is false. As someone who’s manufactured yoyos and witnessed the manufacturing and design process for several companies, I can properly say you’re just wrong.
You’re just blatantly lying for the sake of hating on Chinese manufacturing. Or you genuinely believe false statements. If these facts were true the market wouldn’t favor FPM. I wouldn’t have chosen them to machine my yoyo and neither would Dressel Designs, or Edition, or many other companies that have used FPM. FPM is quality machining.
As for the myth that it’s impossible for a Chinese factory to make the bearing easy to remove while keeping a yoyo smooth, this is also just false and there’s precedent for the exact opposite being true, especially with Japanese machining.
Hydrangea’s Japanese machining is questionable at best and usually yields vibey yoyos out the box, or response grooves that can’t take standard 19mm pads.
YYR’s Japanese machining was the reason you couldn’t unscrew YYR yoyos, they’d become vibey after unscrewing them. That’s why they had the big axles.
Just to prove you extra wrong, here’s a video of me removing the bearing from my Savage, which is Chinese-made, effortlessly.
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YYR’s Japanese machining was the reason you couldn’t unscrew YYR yoyos, they’d become vibey after unscrewing them
This wasn’t really true, it was just something they said to avoid RMAs.
I’ve had a lot of both American made and Chinese made yo-yos and both unscrew and rescrew just fine. Most of the time it’s usually the bearing that can mess up the seat.
Take NSK bearings for example, they are tight on FPM made yo-yos and One Drop made yo-yos. Even then I haven’t really had them destroying yo-yos??
I unscrew my yo-yos literally all the time every day at least 10 times a day to get knots out since I play them all the time. Haven’t had a single problem, maybe you’re over tightening the yo-yos? Skill issue I guess?
All this “bearing seat” and “anodization growth” bullshit makes no sense to me. I play with my yo-yos, I hit them on stuff, they work just fine, regardless of who makes them.
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Okay! Sure. But also I don’t think you’re using any real evidence I think you’re using your own anecdotal experiences that you’re backing up with biases. I’ve seen your threads and posts, it doesn’t exactly spell confidence for rationality.
Here’s the St. Overlap, a collab between TopYo and July, it’s made of 7068 and I’ve vibe-checked it into the hardwood. It’s still smooth.
And… also a damaged bearing seat doesn’t actually mean anything. A damaged bearing seat could potentially mean more vibe but it doesn’t always mean more vibe.
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literally hundreds of chinese manufactured yoyos being exchanged on bst here marked as smooth
Hello! I am a yoyo designer and i am interested in why you believe there is a correlation between manufacturing location and bearing post size. You can design a post to either be very tight or very loose, which is outlined in the cad file, what does that have to do with who physically machined it?
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anodisation process grow the yoyo
how deep/vivid you want color effect growth of yoyo
same cad anodize two different way - one can have loose seat, other can have tight
this must be accommodated for in design process.
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u have NOT tested a sample size nearly this big to make this statement this confidently LMAO.
idk if you realize that, just as you have experienced yoyos becoming viby, many other people have experienced yoyos staying smooth under the same circumstances. Why does your experiences matter more that other peoples?
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Who obviously does matter, where not so much…
Ah yes i am well aware of this, i am also aware of the fact that different colors can add different thicknesses as well! I do believe that many yoyos made in china are designed by people who aren’t very experienced, but that is due to faulty design, not place of origin
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yes. and i am happy to learn from many of you very kind people that there is some few yoyo made in china now that have fix this issue.
I’m sure if there more USA manufacture some will have issues too. I can only go from experience that CAN clyw, USA yyf and OD manufacture - all had easy to remove bearing and smooth. therefore all USA yoyo to me have easy to remove bearing.
all my new clyw, new yyf, new at-design, new yyr, etc all must be cranked shut, and some have had posts ruin from this fitment. it not about place of manufacture - but if you provide @da5id design and seat not good, I am sure he will change it. because he is the very elite manufacture and would not produce something that post will be ruin.
i am half chinese and my father side family do many years work there as engineers. my whole life I have hear about QC problem with china metal manufacture across all board. i am happy to hear fpm is making a few yoyo now that are smooth with easy to remove bearing.
my point still stand that ruin post and too-tight bearing seat is china specific issue as it does not happen with any USA yoyo. if there are omission, that is amazing! however, I will not ignore the rest if you find some outlier. one drop produce many yoyo for many company, and this is not an issue. old USA yyf never have this issue either.
thank you to all who are rude and passive-aggressive and call me “mongoloid” over such small disagreement. my mind is not changed
and @KirbyRobot, I spend years of my life visiting chinese machine shop growing up on “vacations”. as a chinese person. in china. 20+ year of dinner table conversation about manufacturing in china every night between my brother and father and grandpa and uncle. never tell me i am hating on china for the sake of it, i bleed china
also the snooty passive aggressive video you send and photo of other bearing seat is of 7000 or denser aluminum. Yyr savage is 7075. OF COURSE post won’t be destroy or fused to bearing with such hard aluminum. This go without saying??? 7075 posts almost never has an issue with bearings …Why you even waste all that time to film to music and show that 7075 post is less likely to stick to bearing. Sky is blue. I am very obvious speaking to 6061 yo-yo where extra tight fit often cause major issue and damage to post. This entire thread conversation began about posts being ruined to tightness
that is all!
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I’ve started using Atmos bearings in almost all of my yoyos, they fit looser than any other concaves I’ve tried and they fit loose enough to avoid noticeable wear on my FPM made yoyos. The yoyos I’ve had real issues with aren’t FPM made afaik.
I remember old made in USA YYF yoyos having notoriously tight seats.
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Thats a fair observation and i actually agree with you on your premise! Correlation does not equal causation, its true many USA manufactured yoyos (particularly OneDrop) have great bearing seat fitments, but that does not mean that the yoyo being made there is what caused it. I know OneDrop does rigorous testing and QC to ensure their products are made well, and this applies for any brand they manufacture for as well. Whereas some chinese shops are not very involved and may simply go with a faulty design
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Me pulling up yye immediately after cutting the bearing seat posts entirely off of a CLYW in my garage.
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no need for rely on distant memory, i am here today telling you today that these bearing fall out just from tilting the yoyo lol, no hand needed for most even ^-^
when they move to china they become fused to post. this is where my deep anger for tight bearing seat come from. i will never forgive yyf,.
i have many more USA yyf in storage, this all i can find for this photograph i take for you to illustrate my qualifications on if they have tight seat or not. they don’t.
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Did you buy the Aussie Gold 888 recently? Might be my old one, saw it for sale a while ago.
Of the ones I still own my 401k, Rockstar, and Skyline are all pretty tight I think…
Aren’t most of the bearings made in china as well? Any thoughts on inner race ID variation also coming into play?
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