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If competition throws were niche then bimetal wouldn’t have taken off like it did

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I think you just explicitly stated why competition yoyos aren’t niche.

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By the number of yo-yos sold, my guess is plastic fixed axles.

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Having a conversation with @hsb be like

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Actually, no, I did not know that so thanks for the info. That’s a cool one. :grin:

But looking the Code 2 you can see my point. I don’t think the stepped out of “their lane” with that design, at least not very far. A bi-metal or extremely rim-weighted design would be a bit of a stretch. I would love to see that tho. :wink:

I really like the look of the black one in the pic of four. :heart_eyes_cat:

Those are failed prototype / materials we go through to push manufacturing capabilities. All the pictures there are Ls and $$$

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One Drop scared to make a Code 3 because it’d be a wide rim weighted bimetal with a concave bearing ong frfr :100:

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I believe one drops’ most popular models based on units sold are the Terrarian and Deep State. I vaguely remember them posting about this.

I don’t have any other insights about the metal yoyo market, though.

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Yes, I figured it was but that look of whatever if any finish is on it looks very rat rod patina.

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I could easily see the Deep State being their big seller. I f’ing love that thing. Of course I also love my Miracle and my Durendal. Don’t even get me started on the HaymakerX…

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I stated that a single yo-yo with a unique pedigree is popular.

Is 100,000 a big number? What percentage of yo-yo sales during the same timeframe does it represent?

If Duncan sold more plastic fixed axles in the same timeframe, would that prove that $5 yo-yos are the center of the yo-yo universe? I don’t think it would.

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Guys, clearly the biggest part of the yo-yo market are plastic fixed axles because of all the people that buy Duncan imperials from Walmart, make it go up and down twice, then never use it again

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Some people have opinions about what makes a “real” yo-yoer and some don’t.

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Ironically this was wide and a lot of rim weight for the time.

It influenced citizen.

Look at the original description:
The rationale - I’d like to see the One Drop boys put out something big and wide that’s all catch zone and geared specifically for performance, including 5a and horizontal play, but that’s still comfortable to hold, has a solid IRG; something that integrates the side effect technology and starts with a higher base weight than has thus far been available with side effect yoyos, putting as much of that added weight at the rims as possible.

This was something the community asked from onedrop even ten years ago.

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You don’t think they’re niche? What percentage of us compete?

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Competition yoyos interest and appeal to plenty of people that don’t compete, so no I don’t think the market for competition yoyos is a niche one.

I see where this is going Glen, we’ve done this back and forth plenty of times, it’s been years since the last time, I don’t think we need to do it again. I really like the look and specs of the Steadfast you have coming out :slightly_smiling_face:

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Lol, it isn’t going anywhere. I also didn’t read your post properly. It said ‘appeal’. Yeah, so competition yoyos really aren’t niche if it’s appeal.

Edit: in case I’m not coming across clearly @andy569 , I agree with you.

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Yeah, I read their product page after seeing your post, and now I want one. :expressionless:

But as David stated, bimetals and more extreme rim weighting approaches an even higher level of tolerance. I really hope they do make something on the competition bi-metal edge one day, maybe they could do it as a collab with Yoyorec. I’d wait in line for that one.

Let’s split some more hairs over the meaning of “niche”

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