I’ll admit, I was expecting this thread to completely bomb and be swiftly swept off to the bottomless chasm that is ‘page 2’ with hardly any replies.
However, I’m completely (and pleasantly) surprised with how interesting this entire thing has been. There have been some really insightful and interesting posts in here… good job guys. 
I like the bicycle analogy, too. When it comes to yoyo, the energy from your “standard” throw has to go somewhere. You’re throwing the yoyo such that it is SUPPOSED to go across your body at some point (talking breakaway here)… there’s energy going into the lateral movement. But the ratio of distance travelled down vs. travelled to the side is altered in a way that’s really awkward to me. It’s still unwinding when it’s across my body, instead of being unwound when it’s still to the right of or down from my throwhand.
So if you take the point of the yoyo hitting the end of the string as your reference point, maybe 45 degrees was an unintentional exaggeration, but it’s a good 20-30 degrees off for me. The yoyo hits the end of the string when it’s several inches past my NTH foot, which messes with my muscle memory for hitting a trapeze. It feels like I’m starting the trapeze while the yoyo is still unwinding.
Which is instantly noticeable for me, and awkward in a way that I’m not bothered to overcome. There are lots of yoyos out there; I don’t need to fuss with and “grow accustomed to” the ones I don’t enjoy. If you already spent the $220 and are excited for the yoyo, you will have confirmation bias from purchase… and you will probably just overcome it because you don’t care, because you expected the yoyo to feel different (and it did!), or because the benefits highly outweighed the alien feeling.
I tried before plunking down the cash, went “nah,” and therefore have no motivation to overcome it. 
Just for the sake of being thorough (not doubting you or anything) have you just tried the one Draupneir, or have you tried several? Just want to make sure it’s not just an issue with that throw specifically.
Also, I only bring up the draup because it’s been mentioned so frequently.
More than just the one, but not dozens or anything. The most recent reminder that I don’t love it came from a case that had 3 Draupnirs in it. The same case had a bunch of other premium bi-metals and I presume the person uses the same string across his case. Certainly trying different yoyos I never thought, “Oh, THIS is a different-feeling string!” or anything.
I could have easily been talking about kickback with regards to the A-bearing Genesis I owned. The kickback was real.
Or even a Code 1 with thin string. With normal string not so much, but my Code 1 with thin string had noticeable kickback.
It’s definitely not a unique phenomenon to one particular Draupnir.
Just checking, I might have to try one of these Genisis’…Genisi… not sure what the plural is
What I read:
"I’m smarter than you, and in this case I’m smarter than you.
Over here you see how much smarter than you I really am. I’m not doing this on purpose, I’ve just been tempered and aged by hundreds of years of Canadian fermentation and maple syrup making me smarter than just about anybody.
quantified, floaty
kickback"
<3 you Greg
The curse of being able to effectively debate is that people don’t like to be on the short end of it. Then they retaliate by calling you a know-it-all. 
I don’t think I’m smarter than you. I think I understand the subject at hand at a level above yours but below rizki’s. I know enough to say “it’s a reproducible phenomenon of physics” but not enough to really itemize the physics at play.
Somebody who tells me about the inner workings of an internal combustion engine or a microprocessor, things about which I know very little (they seem like “black magic” to me other than… “explosions push a cylinder” or “it all becomes zeroes and ones”) aren’t necessarily smarter than me, though they may actually ALSO be smarter than me. But they have insight or knowledge I don’t have.
Don’t make the mistake of conflating the two.
And knowing what the word “conflate” means doesn’t make me smart, either. It just means I have an expanded vocabulary and knew the right word to pick.
[edited to change a “masked curse word” which although masked still breaks forum rules]
I think you might have read me wrong, it wasn’t me saying “wow you’re a know-it-all,” it was me saying “wow you’re actually very intellectual.”
I most assuredly read you wrong, then. Not very smart of me. Haha! I should have known that my longtime friend Owen wouldn’t have been calling me a know-it-all ______.
Now I AM a ______!!! I apologize profusely.
I wouldn’t qualify myself as an intellectual, but thank you for your kind words. I feel so stupid to have misinterpreted them… :-[
I have the same problem Greg. About the only thing I get in trouble for at work is “talking too big” to people.
God forbid I actually articulate and express myself with a decent vocabulary, where as most of my customer base is. . . . . well, doesn’t and likely cant reciprocate the same quality of conversation or information exchange. I get accused of “talking down” to people often, when Im just trying to bring them up from stone level ignorance to something more useful, they feel threatened and insulted.
Its hard, If I talk to them like an adult, I sound like im talking down to them. If I talk to them like they are children I REALLY sound condescending. Its a lose lose that i cant seem to strike a balance with.
/shrug
And it happens often enough that I too-quickly jumped to the conclusion that it was happening again. Thanks for the commiseration, Dust!
Oh snap! He called you a commiseration! I wouldn’t take that bro!
Tone is the first thing lost in translation from human speak to computer text. Misreading the comments, retorts, and remarks is almost to be expected these days haha!
And misery always loves company. You got a friend in me Greg!
Well, I think the first time I noticed it was back then when the only good yoyo I have is a bootleg Yoyojam metal rimmed plastic, and it was the first time I met another yoyoer to try his yoyos out. Once I returned to my old bootleg, suddenly it feels like the yoyo doesn’t want to unroll as quickly as if it’s sticking to my hand, it was uncomfortable at first. I concluded that it was because of the metal rim, but I still have no idea that bearing and gap width can make a difference. Fast forward a few years I realized that the main reason was actually a combination between the size D bearing and the metal rim.
For 2a I started noticing when I was playing my 720 (first 2a yoyo), since I felt it needs more response, as most people say I need to narrow the gap so I did that, but it loops downward. Being curious, I did some experiments to realize that narrowing the gap not only does increase response but also reduce the “weighty” feel of the yoyo.
It was just now people started talking about kickback, actually I thought everyone already knows but didn’t think it was a big deal. I’ve heard people call it “rim weighted”, “solid”, “sticking to my hand”, “clunky”, “the loops are tight”, and to some extent “heavy” or “powerful”.
I tried out a bimetal this weekend, and I totally felt it.
I can confirm that kickback is a thing.
I can’t say how much of a thing because I’m not in a position to measure it, but I did feel it, and it’s just like Greg described.
Not bad enough to keep me from throwing that yoyo should I ever get one, but it did feel different, and come off of the string differently.
Kickback doesn’t bother me too much honestly. I notice it from time to time but I don’t let myself become fixated on it.
I know what kickback is now! The yoyo goes straight down and sleeps instead of swinging oat and aboat first! And it seems heavier!
http://static1.squarespace.com/static/52fd8b80e4b01d4da24c419c/t/5399ed7fe4b0bcfc5d02c1f3/1402596755036/
For the record, I’m not fixated on it. I’ve made X number of posts only because after all I needed to say, “I don’t need to buy any yoyos with kickback”, people kept asking or commenting.
No, it’s when you do a throw down and expect it to hang straight down, but instead it swings back further. Go review the savedeth video (page 1) at 40 seconds.
Nevermind, I don’t know what it is anymore. I quit 
What is it called then, when a yoyo goes straight downward from a breakaway instead of in an arc, causing your finger to get pulled and hurt a little bit?
