At no point did I claim to speak on behalf on the yoyo community. All I’m saying is that in reality, there is a significant number of people who prefer bimetals over monometals, which is a fact. And that fact disproves the notion that bimetals provide nothing of value over monometals. Think about it, if a significant number of people find that bimetals provide something of value over monometals, it’s highly unlikely that the reality would be bimetals providing absolutely nothing of value over monometals. You would have to dismiss clear, observable evidence to conclude that bimetals provide nothing of value over monometals, which is exactly what you’re doing when you’re basing your entire argument around your personal experience. It’s a subjective argument which results in a flawed and misguided conclusion. Even when I prompt you to provide objective facts to support your claims, you gave even more subjective opinions and provided statements that are irrelevant to the topic of debate.
You might want to think about using Google as your dictionary.
Maybe One Drop would be interested in your services as a manufacturing consultant?
There is a video that exists, made by One Drop, outlining exactly what I said- they don’t think they can compete on price. If you haven’t seen it, maybe you don’t know as much as you think you do about the topic.
How can you guys discuss this topic so much🤣? For me bimetals and monometals are just different flavors of how a yoyo can be built but ultimately they are the same thing for me (a yoyo lol)
I have not contested or questioned what you said and I did not refer to OneDrop except to say that they have all that is necessary to be able to make bi-metals (skills and equipment), why they do not produce them is their own choice, which does not interest me … but which is still a fact …
I then showed you other facts, how a Stealth is made (that’s a fact) and what its retail price was, which I actually got wrong, being $ 49.99 (another fact).
I don’t understand what’s not clear to you, honestly.
since one part of the community uses or prefers yoyo of a certain invoice while, evidently the other part does the opposite (and the eventual number represents very little … a significant number of people, for example, smoke, or have bad eating habits, or do not play sports, therefore?)… it means that bringing up “the community” is like talking about hot air or the sex of angels. … but we have been abundantly overflowing in the off-topic for some time, so that’s enough.
As for google, thanks for the advice but you know, I’m a traditionalist and for things like science and culture I prefer sources that are a little more reliable and above all that have no economic advantage in providing information.
I do think there would be a market for then even if they were more expensive. Just look at hydrangea. They’re bimetals are at a significantly higher price point because they’ve chosen to keep manufacturing in Japan but they still sell well.
I’ve always thought the same thing. I don’t know what price point had in mind, or if they even made it that far, for what they’d sell a bimetal, but I assume they’re aware of other premium products out there. I’ve always figured their position has something to do with them actually owning the manufacturing equipment. Even though the Japanese companies manufactured in Japan, I don’t think Hydrangea or anyone owned anything. Again, just a guess.
the reason why I am not interested in knowing the reasons for OneDrop is that today there are opinions (it was the price, it was a technical reason, etc.), the fact is that they have not yet produced one. They may say that they have no convenience in producing a bi-metal only after they have produced it, offered at the price they consider correct and ascertained that it is almost unsold … but maybe it could go in a totally different way, showing that their opinion it’s not correct … but until that happens we’ll never know. Assuming that the reason is this.
P.S. I have never bothered to give importance to the place where a yoyo is produced or to the name of the brand engraved on it, as far as I’m concerned a good object does not need a country behind it.
Wooooow what a high tech piece of machinery that press is. Hydraulic!? Yep we sure ain’t got nuttin like dems around deez parts of merica.
But seriously… its not hard to press fit anything and any cnc can handle tight tolerances like that. Think about the opposite, a bearing onto a seat post…
If the yoyos sell well, it probably would. On the other hand, it probably hurts them financially a lot more than another yoyo company if it were to not work out.
OD used to get criticized a lot for “playing it safe” with their designs and not being innovative, but it’s always been a formula that’s worked for them. I’m pretty sure their lives are tied to the success of the brand a lot more than the average yoyo company, so they’re probably more conservative.
Well this other part is the minority, in which you’re a part of.
A significant number of people engage in the vices, and therefore, based on similar reasoning, the vices provide something that other things cannot provide for the person, which is the case most of the times. I don’t see a problem with that, it is still logical. It is true as well, it doesn’t mean that something is a vice means that it is all bad, there are benefits to engaging in vices, but obviously the costs far outweigh the benefits. It doesn’t mean there’s absolutely no benefit to engaging in the vices.
Hence, I don’t see how objective, observable evidence from the community can be equivalent to hot air. I also don’t see how my points are off topic, when all of them are in regards to topic of debate, which is whether bimetals have something to offer over monometals. I can’t say the same for your points, most of which have nothing to do with bimetals having something to offer over monometals.
I would be questioning the reliability of my source if I found that the definition given by it is far from that of Oxford’s dictionary.
The funny thing is, the notion isn’t about monometals being better than bimetals or vice versa, it’s about bimetals not providing anything of value over monometals at all, which I find ridiculous. It’s an extreme stance to take and it’s one that is very easily disprovable. But I guess the people who come up with such notions aren’t the kind to see error of their ways.
