well played @Drakkar
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To be fair though, Elon also wants to implant AI computers directly into peopleās brains. While accomplishing this obviously requires a great deal of knowledge, the obvious negative ramifications make me wonder if Elon is in fact āstupidā on some levels.
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The cyber truck was the single smartest investor scheme heās ever pulled off.
Yeah give me $100 and Iāll hold your place for a cyber truck when theyāre ready.
thatās a 0% interest loan with 0 commitment to a time of delivery.
I think he got about 535,000 people to sign up. x$100
Brilliant.
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Imagine how many he couldāve sold if that car actually looked like a normal car.
Also, does that make him smart or everyone who bought one not so smart?
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WARNING: not for the faint hearted, reading impaired or Mo hater. If you already know everything you need to survive life on Earth; pass on this post. If you continue and make it to the bottom. Donāt cry foul because you didnāt like the content.
Back to brass tacksā¦
The Seller is fully responsible for āclearlyā stating the conditions of the sale. The Seller is the one that is moving the item. So, the particulars of the potential sale should be provided in a most straightforward and honest manner. Selling or buying yo-yos on a BST, should be a simple matter.
It should not be a guessing game.
The buyer should not have to āSqueezeā the pertinent information out of the Seller.
If the Seller is really in the Market to āsellā an item. Then, the potential buyer should get the respect and full cooperation from the Seller. The Seller and the buyer do not enter into a deal to be friends. They both enter into a deal to make a simple business transaction.
The Seller should respect that the buyer is there to help him complete his mission to turn an item into money.
Likewise, the buyer should not try to use his leverage in the equation ācall the shotsā and dictate the terms.
In that scenario, the potential transaction changes into a āgameā. When I sell a yoyo. I donāt want to play a game. I want to sell a yoyo. The buyer is temporarily my best friend. Do you play deceptive brain games with your best friends? I sure donāt.
In one of my lecturesā¦ The first thing I say as I step in front of the class is, āAnything short of doing something right, is doing it wrongā.
You canāt be part of the solution if you are part of the problem.
The Seller bears the primary responsibility of providing A straightforward Financial impact statement.
The priceā¦ does it include shipping and fees/yes/no/one or the other/ both/how much/etc?..
The buyer should not have to go into multiple question mode in an attempt to SQUEEZE financial ramifications out of the Seller.
If the Seller starts barking conditions to the potential buyer by utilizing misleading information. Then he is not a Seller. He is just a Punk playing a game.
PayPal almost seems like a 4 letter word to some folksā¦ Theyāre idiots. PayPal fees are the smallest part of the deal. So why should they potentially be used as ādeal breakersā or obstacles to negotiation?
Paypal is a facilitator. PayPal Goods and services is a method of smoothly moving money and goods with the assurance of intervention if a deal goes āSouthā.
I bought my first car, 52 years ago. Since then I have bought and sold more items than I can accurately count. No matter what it is. I approach a deal the same way.
And anything short of doing something right is doing it wrong.
Be as honest as you can about the condition of the yoyo. Be as straight up as possible about the $Price of the yoyo. Make your money calculations before you post up your item.
You can download the USPS Click and Ship app. Pack up your item or items for shipping. Pick out any valid domestic address on the other side of the United States(if you live āhereā). Weigh the package and see what price calculation is generated based on your input(priority,insured for valueā¦ weightā¦etc.).
You donāt have to finish the process. You just use the program to get a better idea on your shipping cost.
The buyer should not have to do the āhomeworkā. The buyer is the one that is helping you āsellā your item. Out of respect for their participation. You should provide a seamless plan.
The people that make deals āhappenā are the ones that end up with the positive Feedback comments.
Once I have a deal ārollingā. Only good things happen. Straight up pricing. No hesitation in providing pertinent information. I package yo-yos in a top shelf manner. I hand deliver the package to the Post Office. And I email or text the tracking number by phone image of dated receipt, before I even leave the Post Office parking lot. And I watch the tracker all the way to its final destination. When it is close, I will contact the buyer with a heads up. If the tracker says ādeliveredā I will immediately contact the buyer and tell them the package is in their PO Box or on their porch or whatever information the tracker indicates. I like to minimize the āPorch Pirateā possibilities.
ā¦When I got my first job as a Car painter about a half century ago. The Boss said something I have never forgotten.
He said, āThe reputation of this Bodyshop, rides out on the back bumper of every job that leaves our drivewayā.
Everything we learn in life will eventually come to serve you.
Become the person that people look forward to dealing with.
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Just my 5 cent. I like the idea that the seller makes a price including fees and shipping. Makes it easier.
One thing I like to mention the country I come from and also most other European countries (as far as my experience goes) always ask for the plain object price so shipping and fees always go on top. I think mostly people not always wanna pay insured shipping and tracking, some only want the cheapest possible way. So this confused me a bit in the beginning on this BST. Also asking for an offer is way more common then here in my experience
So be aware that is a bit of a cultural thing also.
Thanks for your āout of United Statesā post.
In my long winded post(above a bitš¤) I mentioned ādomestic shipping practicesā because I seldom ship outside the Country. So I am glad you put in your ā5 centsā.
My personal feeling is a problem I have with the most frequent request. People from other Countries almost Always ask me if I can ship: the cheapest wayā¦ do not insure contentsā¦ and declare the value of contents at $20 or less. And donāt overpack it so it looks like it might contain a more expensive item.
I have difficulty with a willingness to deliberately misrepresent the facts. They donāt want to pay the Value add tax, luxury import tax or whatever their Country tries to screw them out of in order to receive their package.
I donāt blame them from their point of view. Some Countries charge some seriously ridiculous fees for packages coming into Country.
I prefer not to blatantly lie about stuff to save the end user some bucks.i know people that ship all over the World and have no problem putting a $300 titanium in a box and stating the value of the contents is $19 USD. I am just not One of those throw caution to the wind, trusty souls.
So, I usually just stick to the Statesā¦
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One thing I should add I like insured shipping and I am willing to pay for it. Why I do not like parcels 20$plus is paperwork I have to fill and I have to drive to an office of the customs to get it. And they are not really fun people in the most cases, there u spend in the worthed case 4 hours to pick up a toy and get a treatment if you order drugs from south amerika. So it is not always about the money, just that u know.
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I do nowš¤
Sounds like a real painā¦
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thatās irrelevant. he made a solution to a problem (paypal), and he is advancing humankind because of itā¦ plus he put a tesla in spaceā¦ even the greatest geniuses have the craziest ideasā¦ and, i donāt see anyone elseā¦ especially in the yoyo community offering āstellarā solutions to the same old problemsā¦
i offered yye friends bst help months ago. itās not for them, so i started my own bstā¦ there needed to be a solution. iām tired of seeing my friends get scammed, shady dealers lurking around, no repercussions, āinner circles that donāt existāā¦ and these silly postsā¦ hopefully mo copy-pastas his diatribe(s) for when he has to re-write them next monthā¦ but i know he likes to write 
insanity: doing the same thing over again and expecting different resultsā¦ sooooooo, whatās going to change? this post is the same as all the others. aaaaaaaaand, how long has this been going on? yye has been active for 10 years? oh, then thereās theyo, yyn, davesā¦
moās right. you canāt be a part of the solution if you are part of the problem. in my and some of my peerās observations, there has been an uptick in scammy behavior on the bsts lately. what are you all doing about that? āuse g&s, that solves all your problems.ā INCORRECT! yāall are behind the 8-ball at this point.
i made a solution, i donāt care if people like meā¦ most of the people that donāt like me are part of the problem anyway. my members, are contributing to the solution. they want to know whatās fair. we consult as a team on fair market values. we leave the SOLD prices up of pieces so there is a record of market valuesā¦ so they CAN be searchedā¦ plus oodles of other innovations!
yeah, there are puh-lenty of other bsts, i know which ones i donāt want FSYB to be lumped in withā¦ yye should too.
Just because someone creates a solution to a particular problem does not mean that āsolutionā cannot have effects that create greater problems than the one the solution was initially designed for. My comment was not in regards to bst or scammers, only in reference to the fact that the ones implementation of acquired knowledge does not exempt them from āstupidityā. A child is no less intelligent than an adult, adults just have an accumulation of experiences that leads to varying amounts of knowledge. Intelligence and knowledge are two different things. Intelligence is inherent in every cell of all beings, knowledge is of the mind. If one fails to recognize the negative/harmful ramifications of the implementation of knowledge this is called āstupid.ā While your Musk analogy is fitting to āsolving a problemā, I was just pointing out that it is yet to be seen if his solutions do not in fact lead to greater problems. My comment was not a reflection of any thoughts I have about YYE or FGS BSTs, only out of genuine concern for Musks stated plans to merge AI computers into the brains of living humans. Much love for you @fatguysnacks247 be well!
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mad luv my bruv @TheThrowingGnome
we live in crazy times, and this conversation has spun up a lotā¦ ultimately, the best of mankind and humanity (or the BST folk) have the same goals: a healthy, safe, and clean āenvironmentā, equality amongst a ācommunityā, and to be treated fairlyā¦
iām intent in doing it without a chip in my brain though 
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My man! 
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Iāll chime in here.
Iāve done over 120 dealings here on this bst and probably a good 500 or more within other forums and groups for Yo-yos since 2004.
The price Iām given as a buyer is always the price I expect to pay regardless if Iām sending via goods and services or family and friends.
On the flip side as a seller, I list my price as it is and with the expectation that the final price is including whatever extra fees may be accumulated.
To me this is just how itās done.
Take an example of eBay. If you are an eBay seller, the final price the seller pays ends up having PayPal fees taken out. No eBay seller is gonna message someone who won an item and say āhey congrats! Please sent this much extra to the final price! Thanks!ā
As well, I run a yoyo company webstore that uses PayPal for payment. The price my store gives after shipping is the final price for the buyer as it should be. Any store that ends up messaging saying āhey please add %%% to the final paymentā is a poorly run store.
If we are treating the yoyo BST as a business which however small it may be still is the exchange of money and product, it should be treated as such.
If youāre worried about the small percentile PayPal fee, list your yoyo as 67.50 instead of 65 or whatnot, or round to an even number youāre satisfied with.
I will also say, in my hundreds of dealings, I think Iāve ever only had someone try to get extra PayPal fees after the fact AT MOST 10 tines.
10 out or almost 1000, I feel itās obvious which way this should be leaning.
So meow.
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I believe this conversation has run itās course and is making us all dizzy going in circlesā¦
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