This has got to be the thread of the day for me, lol. You notice a whole lot of pretty useless information in the responses? Uh, I did. Think about this>
A posters says, 'Chris is a awesome guy and /I have Not played a Beyond Envy, but it looks like a pretty cool throw/?
A poster says,‘But with Hspins track record with the Envy line, I think this is an amazing yoyo without having to try it. I am a Huge fan of the NVX and the Envy 64’.
A poster says, The good and evil series was awesome. The Envy series was awesome. The Pyro series was awesome. All great’.
A poster say, The good and evil series was great and the Cut is still one of my favorites. I THINK you’ll like the Beyond Envy’.
… Pick out the 'Most Consistent Element in each of the Responses in this thread. People are basically giving a Positive type suggestion based on ‘other yoyos from the Hspin Company’. Not base on ‘personally experience’ with the actual Beyond Envy yoyo the OP is asking about.
I am not saying the Beyond Envy is a good or bad yoyo. Not at all. I would think it would be more accurate in helping a guy spend his money, to base your enthusiastic comments on personal Experience ‘with’ the subject yoyo. Not with Relatives in the Hspin Family.
There were a few comments that I personally felt were ‘good’ but still had nothing to do with Drawing the conclusion or assumption that the Beyond Envy was/is a great or even good yoyo. The NVX ‘is’ one of the Best Hspin yoyos. And the Cut ‘is’ a very good yoyo’(not exact quotes).
The Pyros were surely nice playing yoyos when they were released. Today? A 45 dollar Shutter would SMOKE a Pyro for Breakfast. The Pyros were/are fun yoyos, but the visual impact of the yoyo was its most attractive feature. I used to mod Renegades and Freehands that would run circles around Pyros, haha.
The Good and Evil series?< good cuz they could have been Worse. And Evil cuz they could have been much better. The G&E series suffered from small gap-itis and non optimal weight distribution. Inconsistent smoothness from yoyo to yoyo. Largest diameter doorknob kinda shape. Had/has an Hollow feel In flight.
The Envy and Envy 64. The Envy technically, sucks. And the 64 sucks at a lighter weight. In the last 15 years, I have Modded countless yoyos. The Envy yoyos are 2 yoyos that not even worth modding, if I could even think of a mod to subject them to. I used to buy my Hspin stuff directly from Chris. All the way back to the Original Handquake. I even have a Rare Black Pyro. Hspin was always trying to move into the future of yoyo performance. And they took chances when most yoyo makers stayed closer to ‘safe’. And even though their efforts were appreciated, few of the Hspin yoyos, I would consider:great, amazing, awesome, etc…
This isn’t a slap Hspin cuz they are gone anyways, Response. I am responding constructively simply because the posters in this thread have been recommending a yoyo, based on trying other yoyos from the Same Maker and not based on personal experience with the Beyond Envy yoyo itself.
Hey, I never thought this would happen in a lifetime, but in this thread, I would have to agree with Bcmaddogs’ comments.
‘The gap it too tiny, string rub age removes capable spin time. It only take stickers. not my favorite’.
To me, the Envy at the time, represented a new direction in yoyo shape, potentiality. It was most interesting, since at that time, there was really nothing shaped like it. But, technically, it was more of a positive vision, than a positive result.
The NVX is probably ‘the Best’ playing yoyo Hspin ever made. I have literally hundreds of yoyos. I seldom have more than a few of anything in metal, unless I really like it. I have 4 NVX yoyos. And I would probably have purchased a few more, if they weren’t released in such lame colorways, lol.
Bottom line is that I sure would not recommend a yoyo to somebody based on my opinions of other yoyos from the same maker. That surely should not motivate a yoer to spend good money on ‘assumptions’.
PS… Oops, come to think of it, I do really think my 4 NVX yoyos are Awesome. So no doubt the Beyond Envy must/should/could/has to be Totally off da chain!?
It would have to be, right? Cuz, Chris is an Awesome guy and the Cut is still one of my favorite yoyos.
I want their new yoyo… The Beyond Reality.
I’ll take a dozen.