absolutely agree with you and above all the last point leaves me very thinking and … leaves me perplexed.
More than once I stopped to think about this wondering why?
Maybe there is really little or nothing new to invent?
But above all the thing that surprises me most is how things are “absurdly” turning upside down … years ago we came to use titanium because it allowed us to make things with characteristics that aluminum could not allow.
Today old aluminum yoyos are reproduced with titanium with the aim of adapting “the limits” (which were previously seen as advantages) of this material to obtain a new object that behaves and gives the feeling of what was the original aluminum yoyo.
Report directly from the RSO website for Mecha Bape / Viszilla:
“Due to the higher density of titanium, the yo-yo body and nipple were shrunk proportionately in order to keep the same weight distribution as the original Bapezilla. This allowed both the aluminum and titanium versions of the Bapezilla to play identically.”
I wonder, does all this make sense?!?! 
well one of the last ideas i heard was slapping a third metal on a performance yoyo and what’s exciting about that?
That actually made me chuckle.
I would assume that people who are willing to get a Ti Bapezilla are doing so because they are enthusiasts about the brand or the yoyo itself.
Being honest and a bit facetious (more facetious that honest), the mere concept of a titanium organic doesn’t make sense.
I agree with you, I don’t know why titanium organics exist, the point of using titanium is for performance and organic shapes are not maximum performance designs.
I think the best material for an organic is 6061 Alumunium. It performs pretty well without sacrificing too much of the particular play feel organics have. Plastic gives an even better feel, but a little less performance, and wood organics are like a desert. They feel incredible to play but don’t perform well.
Nothing to say.
The way I read this is that every yoyo should be designed to the performance max of its material. If this isn’t the case for Aluminum yoyos, why is it any different with Titanium? A Ti equivalent comes with the added benefit of being a lot more durable, but then again most people who buy those yoyos are probably yoyoing over carpet in a padded room paranoid that they might not be able to sell it at NMTBS condition.
I know it isn’t a beater (or organic) example, but I bought 2 Ti-Vayders. One to keep in pristine condition for collective purposes, and the other to spark and beat to hell. I have since put a 5A counterweight on it, and the thing is absolutely wonderful for it. I lost it on a bad catch over cobblestone; it smacked hard and skittered away. The damage? No more than small scuffs.
So imo Ti’s durability makes it a worthwhile upgrade from Al yoyos , though maybe the fact that you can probably buy 4 or 5 Al yoyos for the same price kind of offsets the “upgrade” factor, but the matter still remains: more durable. So maybe people are just happy to buy a yoyo of similar play to the one they love, but also offer the added durability and premium (subjective) feel of playing with a Ti yoyo?
Of course. There’s a lot more benefits form Ti than just performance. And even if they weren’t, Ti yoyos still have a merit of existing by just being high quality toys. This is why I pre-invalidated my own thought saying I was being facetious.
The TiPeak and Ti888 are both organic and for the record, they’re amazing.
True, but at what cost?
You have taken the Ti-Vayder as an example, the best yoyo ever in terms of quality / price but you know this is “the exception that confirms the rule”.
On average, with the money you spend on a titanium yoyo (“adapted” to be like its aluminum counterpart) of the aluminum model you buy 4 or 5 pieces on average, one to keep intact to collect and four to play a whole life with. .
To me it makes sense that what designs are chosen to be made in Ti alloy has nothing to do with performance characteristics. Instead, it seems it is for premium collectibility instead.
After all, how many pros use Ti yoyos? If Ti is so amazing for performance, then everyone should be up on stage with a Ti yoyo.
Hilarious! I love the absurdism of this.
Yeah, the other thing about Ti durability reminds me of some of the reasoning for One Drop side effects, where the side effect axle system is immune to stripping. All these things are great, but it’s not necessary. Al yoyos can withstand plenty of bashing, and normal axle systems don’t strip if we are careful.
So until today we have thrown away a lot of money for nothing, we take note.
Whether to buy titanium or aluminum yoyo … Jensen Kimmitt won a world championship with a plastic yoyo (he would have won it even if the Northstar hadn’t had the aluminum rings and had been plastic only)
Unfortunately I do not have this talent, for me the absurd things, they remain only absurd 
exactly, this embodies a rule of my life:
“everything is useful but nothing is necessary” 
I would add the TiHawk to that list.
Not tried one before but it’s one I’d like to throw. Good shout!
The TiHawk falls into that category of organics in which they play like competition Vs almost. The RRT Boa, while not a Ti, also falls into this category.
I have a general thought. Do you guys think that having string tension makes Kwyjibo a little bit harder? I’ve been trying to learn it and when my string tensions kinda tight I haven’t been able to land my first hop quite as frequently then with neutral tension. Thoughts?
100%. I am refining that trick myself and have to readjust tension constantly. I find that it gets tougher and tougher to execute as tension gets more and more jacked.
That moment when you see the FedEx truck drive right by the house and that’s it…expecting my YYE package today but he just drove by…checked the front yard in case he chucked it (he did that with another package the other day)…Maybe he’ll pass by again? No delivery scan yet, not sure if that shows up immediately or not.
I miss my classic YYR collection. It’d be so sick to open my case in 2020 to see a Messiah, Mr Butcher, Acrophobia, Blink, and Overdrive.
Oh boi