General Yoyo Thoughts

[PCaliyoyos (Peyton Cali)]

@gcoomans

Lol at first I only saw the “honk all you want I’m deaf” sticker

Same!!

[beeebon]

@beezy

Now, the older models that only have front wheel suspension are called “hardtails”, and I keep coming across videos of pros riding hardtail MTBs and advocating for how this older tech is more sensitive and gets you in tune with the trail and the bike more. Well, for me that’s the same with organic yoyos. I like the tactility and the feedback. So many things in life are designed for convenience, where the user isn’t supposed to feel stress or discomfort. However, I find there’s a nice sweet spot of sensitivity where the tools, whether a bike or yoyo or whatever, provide some level of comfort and ease, but not so much where you can’t feel terrain/gravity/friction. After all, I’m doing these activities to learn and tune my awareness to different possibilities, and not to be too insulated. But also, to do some work. It’s good to have tools to feel the work, but not too much.

Although I’m not into biking I totally get this analogy and completely agree with you! I recently got a Life btw and love it, feels completely and utterly different to my Peak 2 for example. I just don’t get people who say there is no variation with organics.

[zslane (ClockMonsterLA)]

Not long ago I saw a simple piece of advice offered (I think it was by Collin Beckford) to someone who didn’t like how heavy their yoyo felt in play. He suggested that they shorten their string a little bit.

The general rule of thumb is that if you want your yoyo to feel lighter, shorten your string, and if you want it to feel heavier, lengthen your string. I had never heard this before and I found it to be an interesting heuristic. So I looked into the physics behind it and I think I understand why it works.

A yoyo in motion exerts centrifugal force on your throwing hand, a Newtonian reaction to the centripetal force exerted by the string in opposition to the yoyo’s desire to move in a straight line away from the anchor point of rotation (your finger). We perceive this force as “yoyo weight”.

According to the equations, centrifugal force is proportional to the distance from the point of rotation, which in the case of a yoyo is defined by the length of the string. So, the longer the string, the more centrifugal force exerted and vice versa.

[Exmime]

As stability and spin times keep increasing I find myself modern responding with a dead yoyo.

[eternalmetal]

What do you mean by this?

[Exmime]

The irony, all these technological advances, and the newest modern responsive tricks are performed with a stalled out dead throw. How less is more is being applied.

[Glenacius_K (Spinworthy Glen)]

An interesting observation.

[Travelingyoyokid (Jeremiah)]

That is crazy! Very interesting.

[jhb8426 (Resident Curmudgeon)]

@eternalmetal

I’d say you’re kinda, maybe, sorta a fan of organics? Just a wild guess…

Definitely, lol. I know that you view them as a modern day crutch, and while I can see that to a certain point, the performance tradeoff really isnt as bad as you make it out to be. There isnt a single trick I know that I can’t hit on all of my yoyos, performance driven or not. Where I think organics exceed is in their feel and on the catch. Nothing beats doing a combo and catching a nice rounded off organic throw.

My feelings exactly.

[Durfee]

I keep trying wider and wider yo-yos and have yet to be bothered by the width, but anything under 45.5 mm I just don’t have a good time with. Same thing generally with anything under around 54.5mm

Even stuff with large catch zones that are narrow don’t work for me, so that’s no really the main factor. And while I have relatively larger hands, so do a lot of other people who like undersize.

I also enjoyed smaller stuff more when it was the standard. Now i just don’t feel right using small yo-yos.

[Throwto100]

I’m actually quite into mountain biking, but I use hardtails because full suspension is too darn expensive lol.

[beeebon]

I looked at my collection yesterday and realised that I don’t really have any strong preferences when it comes to colour. Sure I would love it if all my yoyos were either solid black or brown but they aren’t and there are various colours in there. I guess I am more interested in the yoyo itself than how it looks.

[twitch77 (Green=Love)]

Unlike me.
To me…beauty is only anodization deep.

…I really like how much you appreciate the yos you own though.

[Apple]

Can anyone tell me the pros and cons of a side effect Yoyo? Or is it just some sales gimmick?

[Exmime]

Lots of info if you use the search function

Origin of Side Effects in YoYos?

Thanks so much for being here @da5id! As you have mentioned in another thread - Side Effects were such an impressive discovery in modern yo-yo. I’m very curious about the development of them… How did it happen? Whose original idea? Was there an ‘Aha’ moment or more of a development over time? And are there earlier iterations of the design or did you knock it out of the park on the first try? I Side Effects.

[PCaliyoyos (Peyton Cali)]

@YoYoExpertGarrett any idea when the Brass Kun will be back in stock?

[Travelingyoyokid (Jeremiah)]

Ooo now you want it.

[PCaliyoyos (Peyton Cali)]

yes, very much so.

[Travelingyoyokid (Jeremiah)]

I have a mighty flea, it’s pretty similar. I could bring it in feb.

[PCaliyoyos (Peyton Cali)]

for sure! Mighty Flea looks fun, but i hear it’s extremely hard to use.