I expected the double rim to come back, but w/e
My thoughts: Stop feeding the hype
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Iâm a little disappointed to say that I feel like itâs just a chief two. Not like thatâs a bad thing but I was really hoping for an oversized design similar to the cliff. This just seems like a letdown for the time weâve been waiting for this overhyped mess 
^ For those unawares.
I wasnât the biggest fan of the Chief (though recently Iâve been tempted to pick one up again), and I traded away my Bonfire since it didnât really feel right to me, so Iâm skeptical as to whether this will personally be a throw that I would really enjoy. Iâm definately happy to give it a shot depending on where and when it drops, but Iâll be settling for the final production runs. I can imagine that these protos will go pretty quickly and I donât really feel like sitting watching a counter go down with my debit card in hand and sweat pouring down my face. 
I must admit that a part of me would have liked to see a slightly wackier design. I love the Cliff to bits because itâs so different and unique, and I sort-of hoped that Petrâs next sig would be just as outside-the-box. I feel that CLYW has yet to fill the obscurely shaped hole that the Cliff has left open, so I hope that in the future we might see something a little less competition orientated.
At any rate, considering itâs a combination of some of CLYWâs best received throws, Iâm sure itâll be amazing and go down a treat with most people. Iâll just have to wait and see whether itâs the right one for me. 
You guys know thatâs just the prototype, right? CLYW is making a run of the prototypes, but the final Scout design will be halfway between the Chief and the prototype youâre seeing now.
Darn it, I did have a paragraph in my post commenting on this but it looks like I deleted it for some reason.
Yes, Iâll be interested to see how the final product differs from the prototypes both in looks and play. I donât really have implicit plans to pick up either, but inevitably there will be people who buy both and can give a good run down of the differences. Maybe a classic side-by-side Totalartist shot. 
To me, the Cliff was a mess. Yeah, it was unique which gets it some bonus points in my books, but that gap was uncomfortable to the point of making the yoyo unplayable.
This looks good, but itâs just too heavy for me. I know 67g isnât a âheavyâ yoyo, but with a name like âScoutâ I was just mentally prepared for a lightweight. So for me, itâs a bit of a letdown in that regard.
Everything else look great, IMO.
I think that was mostly dependent on an individualâs finger size. I have long thin fingers so my middle finger sits comfortably between the gap. Due to this I can happily bind at full speed with no discomfort whatsoever (if anything, itâs actually pretty comfortable to me). However, I can understand that those amonst us with girthier digits might be in for a somewhat unpleasant time, although Iâve never experienced it myself.
I believe that Chris from High Speed was bothered by the discomfort so much that he actually lathe-d down portions of the catch zone in order to make it playable. 
I guess itâs one of those âhorses for coursesâ kind of things.
The scout kind of reminds me of a metal yeti.
I threw one at Georgia States and that is exactly how it played. I felt barely any difference in between them and if they look and feel similar in the hand too. If I wasnât aware that it was a Scout, I would have thought it was a Chief the whole time. I am too dissappointed
Looks like half of the bonfire rim with the response and catch zone of the chief, and no double rim. Guess itâll be floaty
Itâs weird that people are talking about âhypeâ when weâve barely said anything about this release up until now, other than not having answers to peopleâs questions about it, ha ha.
But I forgot, any kind of promotion of a new release is called âhypeâ now. 
The Scout is not a ârevolutionary new designâ, and weâve never claimed otherwise. Itâs very much a player model, designed specifically to fit the play style of Petr Kavka, and every aspect of this model is derivative of Petrâs favorite CLYW models. The rims from the Chief, the profile from the Bonfire, the inner catch area groove of the Bonfire, and the inner cup profile of the Bear vs Man 2. The âAdvance Scoutâ prototype version has an inner cup profile that is more like the Chief, but the final version will look more like the Bear Vs Man 2, with the post from the Bonfire. (Weâve developed a few tricks for moving weight around, and most of them have to do with inner cup profiles.)
The weight and weight distribution on this were tricky, but we eventually got it to exactly where Petr wants it.
Both this prototype version and the final version are something weâre really excited to release. It could definitely be argued that the Advance Scout is sort of a âChief Plusâ, but weâre pretty good with that. They really do play quite differentâŚdifferent enough that we considered actually discontinuing the Chief and replacing it with the Scout, but ultimately decided that they just play entirely too different and there is room for both of them in our line.
The Chief is still one of our all-time favorites, but the Scout is a much more competition-minded evolution of that design. The elements we took from the Bonfire really put it over the top as far as stability and play value and while lots of people love the Chief, you donât see them competing much with it. The Scout is something that we definitely expect to see on stage a lot in the coming years.
Sorry to hear that a few people are disappointed. I know that the Cliff was a huge departure for us, and some people expected us to go even farther with the Scout. But what Petr wanted was a serious competition return top, so we reigned things back and went with a design that we knew would serve any competitor well.
We think once people get these in their hands, theyâre going to see exactly why we released it. Itâs hard to visualize when you just see a return top that looks like like another of our return tops, but the different in play is pretty noticeable for serious competitors.
Anyway, I should be packing for Japan. Just wanted to jump in and give my two bits before Iâm not around for a week, ha ha. Thanks to everyone whoâs chimed in with their opinions (on both sides). We appreciate that you keep us relevant enough that every release merits so much discussion, and itâs great that we have so many vocal fans to keep us honest.
Cheers,
S
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THATS JUST WHAT I WANTED.
Yesssssss.
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I love that blue color. Wow.
I also love the softer, more rounded rims on the Chief. Iâm excited to see how a Chiefâs inner cup area affects something like the Bonfire. Mixing and matching designs is always fun. The Summit is/was great. The Arctic Circle was awesome.
Itâs interesting that people will complain about CLYW making similar models when Turning Point after Turning Point or YYR after YYR all look the exact same, almost play the exact same, etcâŚC3 comes right out and says, âWe wanted the Heartbeat to be like the Movitation except for thisâŚâ and they donât get any flack for it or for constantly âre-mixingâ their throws, if you will. Fans will cheer, haters will hate. Consumers will buy. Iâm a consumer.
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Gets a big fat meh from me. Comes across very much as âjust another yoyoâ with nothing at all special or unique about it, not to mention those specs do nothing for me. Will be curious what the production Scout looks like in comparison when it releases next year. In the meantime dem 7075 Summits look like the yoyos to get excited about.
Those 7075 Summits indeed look glorious.
As for the Scout, itâs mainly the spec that I donât love for me. I donât compete. I donât need maximum spin time, I just need something fun to huck around. But then again⌠lots of âcompetitionâ yoyos are on the lighter side right now. Not too many competitors do 1-minute combos without a regen anyhow. You need to take a âbreathâ or it just starts to get crazy-feeling for the spectator (Iâm sure there are notable exceptions).
So, that said, I was hoping for more âquirkyâ and less âcompetitionâ.
I donât mind in the least that it looks like a take-off on existing CLYW yoyos. In some ways, itâs a plus for me. Just like N8 said, other companies do it with impunity; not sure why itâs fashionable to moan about CLYWâs ability to generate excitement. Freakinâ hipsters, I tells ya.
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They made a metal yeti, itâs called the chief.
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Iâm looking forward to this. Hoping I can raise just a tad more cash before this releases. Has it been said yet if itâll only be available in Black, Blue and Clear for the first run?
maybe a uragment situation?
my thoughts: its a yoyo made by CLYW and its the signature of one of my favorite yoyoers Petr Kavaka yeah.