what yoyo should I get a chief or a calalist zstacked with hubstacks included?
i wanted the chief in Adam Brewster edition for $145 but then I wanted the catalist for $70-$80 dollars
I dont know which one to chose
I have a yoyofactory genesis but no yoyos with hubstacks
so im stuck on a decision of which one to get can someone give reasons of which one to get
catalist zstcked are coming to yoyoexpert soon 
From you local hubstack store.
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I have no idea what is going on.
I re-read this entire thread 3 times now and I quit.
Get a chief
As fas as stacked throws go, the Champions Edition Genesis is a great option, however since you already own a Genesis perhaps you would prefer something different. The YYF Superstar is a good stacked throw in this case.
Hubstacks are good however thereās only so much you can do with them so I wouldnāt get too hung up on it. I ended up de-stacking my Superstar in the end because I never used them and the noise was annoying me. =P
edit! It is indeed possible to hubstack yoyos yourself (which your other post shows you are interested in doing), however whilst I donāt doubt that a very skilled modder would be able to hubstack a Chief, I would highly recommend against trying it yourself.
I do believe a small amount of catalysts were made with hub stacksā¦
Lol, stacked, blasted Catalysts have been out on a few different stores for almost a week now
Googles
Well Iāll be damā¦ erā¦ ādarnedāā¦ you really do learn something new every day. =O
Iām surprised that theyāre still making Catalysts with Augie goneā¦
The chief BLOWS the Catalyst out of the water by a MILE. I had the same feeling that I wanted to try a hubstaked yoyo but once you get one you rarely use the stacks anyways. So if you really want a hubstacked yoyo go and buy a cheap 888 off the BST you could probably find one for $35-$40.
after Augie left they changed it to Harold Owens signature throw.
Catalyst. Chief = most overhyped throw in years(iāve owned 3).
Iāve never played a Catalyst personally, but judging by the quality of the other YYF metals, it probably doesnāt hold a candle to the Chief. The Chief is straight-up amazing, and most yoyoers will tell you the same (although, as with anything, there are always a few naysayers). Also, IMHO hubstacks are pretty gimmicky. They induce vibe and never really get used much. Also, they take the challenge (and the fun) out of horizontal grinds.
lol no idea what this means. Amazing how those substandard throws keep winning world, national, and regional competitions time and time again.
Whilst I am not a naysayer, I have to say that personally the Chief wasnāt my cup of tea. Thereās no doubting itās a good throw and I know that many many people adore it, but it just never really felt right to me and so I rarely use mine.
Itās not really right to assume that you know how a yoyo plays. You may be correct, but since you havenāt tried a Catalyst, you should reserve judgement and not make assumptions.
Au contrair actually, Iāve found my 7075 Genesis to consistently outperform my Chief and Arctic Circle as well as many other of my high end throws; couple that with how many times YYF metals have been used to win major contests (just recently the top 3 at BAC), and I wouldnāt be quite so quick to put down YYF. Iām not saying that they donāt make bad throws, but credit where itās due, they also make a few very good onesā¦
wellā¦ I know what Iād choose. ;D
But Iām not biased or anythingā¦
I love the Chief. But Iām going to add my own 2 cents about YYF: I have an Avant Garde, which isnāt even their most celebrated throw, and it is astonishingly good. Every time I pick it up for a session (usually with long breaks in between 'cos I have too many danged yoyos now!) Iām reminded again of how stable it is, and with a really satisfying āmiddle groundā between solidity and float.
Thingās amazing.
But just to reiterate: I do love me some Chief. 
I donāt think itās overrated at all-- I think itās perfectly rated.
For those of you who are criticizing me for not reserving judgement, Iām sorry. I was trying to point out that I donāt know exactly how the Catalyst plays but I would think that the Chief is better. Donāt take my word for it, I can only say how good the Chief is, not how it compares to the Catalyst. If you bought it you probably wouldnāt be disappointed. Iāve played with my friendās genesis extensively, and I admit itās a great throw. Not as good as the Chief, IMO, but definitely better value (I got my chief discounted, which is the not reason I own one). And about YYF throws āwinningā competitions, itās not yoyos that win, itās players. YYF has some of the greatest throwers the world has ever seen, plain and simple. It doesnāt necessarily mean their throws are top of the line quality. Anyway, I was just making inferences based in my limited experience. Feel free to ignore me, thereās a good chance Iām wrong XD
At BAC I tried the stacked Catalyst and it felt heavy and klunky to me, almost like a big DV888. Fun though, I gotta say I threw it for a while.
Ya like really Adam why would you ever want a Chief in your own signature colorway 