Breathe?

[YoyoGeezer]

Does anyone know anything about the Breathe, from a company called Innovative YoYo Concepts?
I saw it on another site that is overseas, but I do not seem to find anything about it here. The seller says it is made in the USA. It is looks like a very interesting design. Anyone played one?

[GregP]

Haven’t played one. YoyoNews mentioned that it is machined by One Drop.

[naoki]

It’s highly inspired by Tomymoonly and Ettore’s works

A "tribute to Ettore"

X Cube Stampede MOD

I’m curious to know how this plays though, I mean, it doesn’t look really aerodynamic to me.

[GregP]

Meh. Aerodynamics are a pretty small factor for yoyos once the basic criteria are met. If the venting caused too much air resistance the yoyo wouldn’t have made it to production run, they would have revised until I did.

I sincerely doubt there is a true aerodynamics problem with the design.

[YoyoGeezer]

Will it be coming to YoyoExpert?

[Bina (Bína)]

Quote from one USA yoyo shop.
I found it interesting, he used 3D CAD program and now want to patent his system.

The Breathe yoyo from Innovative YoYo Concepts is one of our most exciting introductions in a very long time. Why? Because it was designed by Ian Cole, who has done so many of our yoyo demonstration videos at xyz

Ian is a top yoyo player, having placed as high as 2nd at the US Nationals and 9th at the World Yoyo Contest. But in his professional life, he is a designer. In fact, he’s working on his master’s degree in architecture right now.

One of the first things you notice about the Breathe is the cutouts. The Breathe is the first yoyo manufactured through cuts in the X, Y and Z dimensions. Other yoyos only use the X and Y dimensions. This technique is so innovative that Ian has a patent pending for the method of design.

With the manufacture of most yoyos, the CNC machine is run using a CAD (computer aided design) program. But CAD leads to a flat, X and Y only type of design. So Ian used a 3D modeling program called Rhino that is often used in architecture and jewelry design. Which gives you an idea of the complexity and beauty of this yoyo.

We asked Ian some questions about the Breathe.

Q: What’s up with the surface feel and the flat coloring of the Breathe? How did you get that, and what’s the significance?

A: “The finish of the Breathe is raw grit blasted aluminum with no anodizing or color treatment. The finish, even if it seems like a minor decision, has a lot to do with the yoyo and IYYC. (warning: this is the architect in me talking) One of the things that inspired me to start Innovative YoYo Concepts was the trend I was seeing in high end metal yoyos over the past few years.

Every new yoyo would be released and say “groundbreaking new design” but all I could see was a different color combination on the same yoyo. I wanted to design something that was truly groundbreaking and unique regardless of what colors are splashed on at the end. This is why the Breathe has no finish; in the eyes of IYYC the shape and design of the Breathe is so unique that any color or finish would be unnecessary and would distract from the intention of the yoyo.”

Q: Tell us the story behind the design.

A: The yoyo went through a number of prototypes, which was difficult because for most of the year I live about 6 hours from the manufacturer. Throughout the design and manufacturing I had to plan meeting with the manufacturer to check up when I was in town. We had an agreement that I would be there to supervise and collaborate throughout as much of the manufacturing as possible. When it came to the final production, I would go the machine shop at 6 am and spend the entire day problem solving and/or testing for quality.

I personally oversaw and packaged every yoyo in this limited edition series of just 80 Breathe yoyos that were made. I don’t know if there has ever been a production of yoyos as hands on as this one. I was particular on every detail, even things like the letters on the wax seal or the paper that goes into the packaging. I think this is what makes the Breathe so special; it is the love and attention to every detail that most people will never know about.

Breathe Yoyo Product Details:

Diameter: 54.9 mm
Width: 45.5 mm
String gap: 3.75 mm
Weight: 60 grams
Bearing: One Drop C-type 10-ball bearing
Response: One Drop silicone sticker
Material: 6061-T651 aluminum
String: Type 6 Polyester, purple.

[Jdrabik]

I kind of hope that the patent fails…

[sparhawk]

Apparently he has never heard of the radian super light since it also has cuts along the z dimension

[GregP]

Those specs are different than the ones published at another store. I like them better.

[YoyoGeezer]

A patent pending on what? Using 3D modeling software to design a yoyo? What is novel about that? I will have to think a bit before I commit my $ to that cause.

I just cannot see how ANY yoyo patent has been good for the yoyo industry; or yoyo players.

[Bina (Bína)]

I truly have no clear idea what exactly he wants to patent, here is quote

The Breathe is the first yoyo to use IYYC’s patent pending “Tectonically Structured YoYo” system; a new technique of machining non-solid aluminum bodied yoyo halves.

[Yoyo_Kangaroo]

I hope that patent fails. Cuts along the Z-axis are not new or innovative. For example:

BIST Stradivari

Edit: more:

SPYY six-shooter holes:

Saturn El Ranchero

Dif yoyos have engraved hubs:

Dif-e-Yo Bone Chip

Custom does a lot of this:

Custom MAG

[yoyodoc]

BEST YOYO CONCEPT EVER (Negative Shape Revolution)

Seriously, one Badd Man.

I love that guy… He is the Dr.Franken-einstein of yoyo concepts

Can you spell awesome?

Here, I’ll help you>>> Start with a Cap and finish with Caps. AWESOME.

ok, he might be ‘out there’…

But that is just ‘1’ of his Outstanding BrainBuilt Creations. His design processing is Masterful.

[kyo]

Wow… that write up is chock full of bull****.

Hype is one thing, but there are some outright lies in that.

@Bína

One of the first things you notice about the Breathe is the cutouts. The Breathe is the first yoyo manufactured through cuts in the X, Y and Z dimensions. Other yoyos only use the X and Y dimensions. This technique is so innovative that Ian has a patent pending for the method of design.

Except for all those other yo-yos who have done it for a very, very long time. Among many other examples, you have this, which I made and showed at worlds in 2009. http://kyostoys.com/content/bnest1.jpg

If any attempt is actually made to patent this idea, I’ll actively fight it, and I’ll make sure others do as well.

@Bína

With the manufacture of most yoyos, the CNC machine is run using a CAD (computer aided design) program. But CAD leads to a flat, X and Y only type of design. So Ian used a 3D modeling program called Rhino that is often used in architecture and jewelry design. Which gives you an idea of the complexity and beauty of this yoyo.

LOADS of companies use 3d CAD models, myself included… dating all the way back to 2003. Solidworks is very commonly used among yo-yo designers, and it’s primarily a fully 3d program. Many of us even go much further and do real simulation and virtual performance testing using the extremely advanced physics simulators solidworks has.

There is a ton of hype in there, which is fine… but don’t lie to people.

Kyle

[modman10]

@kyo

Wow… that write up is chock full of bull****.

Hype is one thing, but there are some outright lies in that.

Except for all those other yo-yos who have done it for a very, very long time. Among many other examples, you have this, which I made and showed at worlds in 2009. http://kyostoys.com/content/bnest1.jpg

If any attempt is actually made to patent this idea, I’ll actively fight it, and I’ll make sure others do as well.

LOADS of companies use 3d CAD models, myself included… dating all the way back to 2003. Solidworks is very commonly used among yo-yo designers, and it’s primarily a fully 3d program. Many of us even go much further and do real simulation and virtual performance testing using the extremely advanced physics simulators solidworks has.

There is a ton of hype in there, which is fine… but don’t lie to people.

Kyle

Let me know if i can help fight it.

[NathanC]

@YoyoGeezer

Will it be coming to YoyoExpert?

There’s another US store selling them if you’re interested. Personally it doesn’t do much for me. I think cut outs are awesome and really really want to see more yoyos with them, but this design in particular doesn’t thrill me in any way.

[yoyodoc]

@GregP

Haven’t played one. YoyoNews mentioned that it is machined by One Drop.

One Drop had absolutely nothing to do with ‘machining the Breath Yoyo’.

JFYInformation

[qpwoei12]

Let’s be honest here. Tell me how any yoyo manufacturer could possibly use a 2d CAD design to create something so precise as a yoyo. Not “innovative” at all.

Also, I don’t see how huge cutouts like those would make me want to buy it. Seems like it would just be a nuisance when trying to catch string.

[GregP]

@yoyodoc

One Drop had absolutely nothing to do with ‘machining the Breath Yoyo’.

JFYInformation

Cool. It doesn’t matter either way… but good information is the best information. Even on YoyoNews, the actual quote was this:

“The yoyo is machined in the US, and uses One Drop’s bearing and response so it’s a safe bet that it probably came out of their machine shop, which speaks well to the quality.”

The part about “it’s a safe bet” means that it was just speculation anyhow.

[YoyoGeezer]

Could OneDrop confirm/not confirm this?

I mean; is it a secret?