I’m just gonna go ahead and say it again for the people in the back:
What matters is the thrower, not what is being thrown.
Most modern yoyos, especially bi-metals, are designed with long spin times and stability in mind. However, if the person throwing it isn’t very skilled, it’s not gonna spin that long. The secret to improving is time and lots of practice. Having a yoyo that you personally enjoy looking at and playing with is the best way to achieve this.
Check out the store, read some suggestions, watch some reviews, then pick one of that looks cool and meets your preferences. It ain’t that serious.
Alright I guess a worded that wrong, thanks for the correction. If you have no idea what yoyo style suites you (like me) what yoyo do you think would be a safe bet?
So here is what I would reccomend based on what you’ve said so far. First off, determining your taste in yoyos can be a long process that often requires trying a good few yoyos before you figure out what you really like, unless you get really lucky at the beginning. That said, here’s a few places I would start in your position.
First off, neither of the yoyos you currently have should be “trash” in regards to spin-time, you should easily be able to make it through black hops with both if you’re using proper technique. A first thing you may want to check however is the bearing. The quality control on MYY bearings is often really bad and they get gritty real quickly in my experience. Try cleaning or replacing them if you haven’t yet, and see if that makes a difference. Also check to see that both response pads are still flush and haven’t started to come out; as that can also kill spin time.
Next, the best place to start for finding a new yoyo is figuring out what you do and don’t like of the yoyos that you do have. Is one heavier and one lighter? Is one wider than the other? Do you find one shape more comfortable than the other? Figure out your preferences between the two of them. Look at potential options based on either trying to remedy attributes you don’t like, or emphasizing ones that you do in your new yoyo.
With that done, at this stage in your yoyo journey it’s pretty much just “this is in my price range and looks cool.” Don’t try to overthink it much beyond that. Focus on spending time actually throwing and learning!
It’s hard to tell. I like the width on the V13 (48.9 millimeters) but that is where it ends. On the hand the N11 lacks width (40 millimeters) but has amazing spin time (at lest compared to my V13) and superb stability. As for shape I don’t know both are very similar (at lest to my eyes).
Actually the shape is very different. The first one is an organic O shape and the second is a V. O is known for comfort and V is usually more performance oriented.
Blah. Most of the takes in this thread are disappointing to read. Genuine answer, you don’t need a bimetal, but if you really want one, just get one that you like the look of or something. Strictly speaking, yoyos can be objective, but you seem relatively new. Just keep learning tricks.
The best bimetal is arguably the Dinosaur in the Wild, though nearly any bimetal from W1ld is guaranteed to be top-tier
The Outlier 6 is also, at the very least, good
The YYFr Netrunner is quality, has a low enough price, and is good.
Shutter Elite is slop; avoid it, it has fragility issues. Rims can be pried off with your bare hands.
Check my tier list for comprehensive breakdowns, reviews, and a general ranking of a bunch of yoyos. Might help you make a decision.
Fyi, these are spread across various different iterations of the Miracle.
2022 - OG Miracle (PC rim) for both
2023 - As above
2024 - Mir - Miracle AL rim, Miri - OG Miracle (PC rim)
2025 - Miracle 2025 for both
Also, no one who made it to Worlds 1a finals aside from the Kims used the Miracle.
Anyway for OPs question, I’d agree with W1LD always being a solid choice and that you should experiment to find your preferences. I’ll add one thing that’s not been mentioned so far which is that hand side can impact which yoyos feel comfortable (eg if you have bigger hands then bigger diameters will be more comfortable and vice versa).
Of the W1LD bimetals, Wildify is their flagship and is a performance beast, but you said you weren’t sure about >50mm and some do find it a bit heavy (this is the bimetal version of the Wilderness fwiw). Wilder is sub-50mm and is a solid all rounder. Shy is very good too with a powerful, weighty feel. Upshift is another all rounder imo but with a leaning to speed. All are very stable. I’d avoid the tri-materials as they’ll be more fragile and expensive so best to wait till you’re more experienced.
I would just add on a final note that I do think you may benefit from getting a couple good monos of varied shapes/specs to explore your preferences more and develop your skills before getting a bimetal. Yo-yos like the Wilderness, Duncan Evolve, Top-Yo Annihilation, etc have comparable performance to most bimetals while being cheaper and more durable. But it’s ultimately up to you what will bring you the most joy in the end and if that’s a bimetal then fair enough.
And yeah, follow the bearing maintenance tips others mentioned. Doesn’t matter how good your yo-yo is, a dirty bearing will wipe all that away.
I’m not that much of a newbie, most of the dings in the picture are either from friends trying my yoyo or when I stupidly told myself that I should try 4A with a 1A yoyo. That being said I just don’t have that deep pool of tricks to draw from and I believe that it partly do to the yoyo. So maybe you are Right and I should just get a mono metal yoyo. If I were to get a mono metal which one should I pick? Have any of you played with the Halcyon? Which is better in your opinion the Wilderness 7075 or the Halcyon?
Tried both and the Wilderness is a bit lighter playing and manoeuvrable while the Halcyon is very stable and powerful. Almost everyone I’ve talked to enjoys the Wilderness. I wasn’t too fond of the Halcyon personally but I’m definitely in the minority there, almost everyone else loves it with many preferring it to the Wilderness. Can’t go wrong with either tbh.
This take is correct. Really any C3 or W1ld will absolutely dunk on yyf or outlier with their crotch in the face of the poor defender on the floor. Also you don’t need a bimetal. Monometals nowaday are really all you need if you’re John C. Averageyoyoplayer. They definitely feel cooler and you should definitely get one if you have the funds and are reasonably experienced and enthusiastic about yoyoing, but like you probably aren’t doing enough to even get the most out of your monometal unless you’re competing at high levels. Again, not saying you need to be a competitor to justify buying a bimetal or trimaterial, you just don’t need the benefits it provides.
