I was saying that although the difference can definitely be felt, chances are you’re not at a point where you’re pushing yourself or the yo to need anything more than a decent monometal.
I like the Halcyon a lot. It’s pretty powerful, and for how wide it is it’s also pretty smooth and stable. It definitely feels on the large size for me, but that might be exactly what you like so it’s worth trying!
Here’s the halcyon on the right compared to a yyr tricklab standard in the middle and a clyw leaf on the left for reference:
To add even more opinions to the thread
, my favorite bimetal is an unparalleled novalis, the asteria looks kinda similar on paper but I haven’t played it. But their monometals are worth checking out as well as they seem to check a lot of your boxes. The domination is an amazing bang for your buck throw imo. Good luck and let us know what you go with!
Halcyon and wilderness 7075 are both so nice but I give the edge to halcyon as well. More power imo and also more comfortable. Cheaper for some reason too.
I think that is true as far as need, but the extra power/stability can be a learning aid. E.g. if someone is frustrated trying to complete Black Hops and the reason is execution (not bearing condition), something like the Nucleon could help bulldoze through and build familiarity with the trick needed to get through it clean with less raw power.
Not to go off topic, but this is actually a great use case for bimetals. People say all the time you should get a slimline/organic/undersized/mini yoyo to get better, but genuinely, if you’re learning harder and harder tricks, these yoyos are active hindrances that just make the learning process frustrating. Like learning how to do trig with one of those slidy things.
Learning harder tricks and just playing are what help you improve. Everything else is consumerist slop.
I think there is value in using worse yoyos to improve the execution of tricks you already know, which is still a way to be getting better at yoyoing.
I feel you should have both at your disposal. I like a solid throw for initially learning tricks but a less forgiving throw for honing it in and working on technique/style.
Unless you’re an absolute imbecile most bimetals aren’t much less durable than monometals are, especially inner-rim designs where the steel is protected. I get that there’s an extra failure point given the joining of 2 pieces together but I have yet to be able to be able to separate rings from body, using raw strength or just abusing tf out of a bimetal. That being said I have seen it happen but in the grand scheme of things design is what matters more to durability than whether it’s a bimetal or not.
I feel the piece of mind more than anything will get someone practicing more, and more dangerous tricks. The fear of dislodging a rim may set someone off. This is why I feel a good middle ground for those who are afraid are inner rimmed bimetals, but honestly, why not just go play with a mono if you’re able to first? It feels like extra steps as they are rather not as common, and finding something that speaks to you will motivate you more. I love the longer spintime and all, but most of my absolute favourites are monos.
This isn’t to discredit bimetals, I just feel most times I can preform everything on anything regardless, Bimetals just help teach me more by being more patient when I’m learning a new trick. I prefer the middleground of playing Monometals more, and my daily driver is a Bimetal (It was what looked the best to me at the time)
Figure out what works for you first before getting a bimetal. They cost more, and you may be stuck with something that doesn’t suit you. For me, aesthetics come first, my bimetal I drive is actually undersized too. It’s not best, and pretty much against what you should be playing with on stage. But.. isn’t that what’s neat about the hobby? We all have things we like and play better with. Yoyoing isn’t linear, it’s an art form. What I like is not the norm, but I feel a lot of us don’t play the norm, we play what we like. G2 is popular for that reason.
Yeah, main reason I suggested monos first is they’re cheaper so it’s easier to experiment with multiple designs and find your preferences.
The durability is also definitely a factor with bimetals; you have some like Turning Points that are durable AF and you have others that will get noticeable vibe from bouncing off the floor once or twice.
Yes. Once again…the amount of wins is just not a great argument for it being the best.
Gentry won US nationals with a replay. We going to argue that it’s a better yoyo than his competitors used that year? Of course not. Gentry is just THAT good. Just like Mir and Miri. They’re just THAT good.
Just another case that the Yo-Yo really doesn’t matter, Mono, Bi, Tri or Plastic
Imperialism was a thing…













