When I first started vibe annoyed me. I even returned and swapped for throws that had no vibe.
Obviously there’s a tipping point. But I realized they aren’t going to stay perfect forever, and at some point they will all get it.
Over time my favorite yo-yos aren’t even the ones with minimal vibe. They just play well.
TLDR I made myself get past it and over it, and have more fun because of it
I love the ones that are glass smooth, but I don’t really get bothered unless its pulse vibe or like really bad on the string. I only got rid of one yoyo for vibe but it was a yyf Miracle with shifting plastic rings so it had variable vibe and it was driving me nuts.
A vibeless yoyo is a cool thing, but I grew up with yoyos that had vibe out of the box and it was just normal. if you play wood fixies, some vibe is actually helpful for increasing spin time ever so slightly and the oldest school players in the thirties might knick one half on purpose to give the yoyo more vibe. They did amazing things with those simple chunks of wood. even in the modern era, Yoyos were simply more challenging to use in the 90s and early 00s than they are now and still we saw a renaissance/seachange in yoyo tricks and play styles. Even the best yoyos avaialble had some vibe and needed some tuning/tweaking but players leaped from a finite number of tricks between 1930 and 1995 that you could list out, to infinite trick possibilities, variations, and play styles (3a,4a,5a) within a 10 year span… I still don’t like dinging them, but if the goal is to build skills and land new tricks, the yoyo can do it with vibe if you can rise to the challenge.
Wow I never expected to see this dead topic again
Yoyo vibe is a super complicated topic and I could talk about it for hours explaining all the possible things that can cause vibe, but from my few years of yoyoing I can say that vibe doesn’t matter for the performance of the yoyo and caring about it will just make it difficult to yoyo mentally.
Having to stress about vibe every time you have to change pads or clean bearings is daunting, and time spent tuning yoyos and getting replacements could be better spent elsewhere. And you end up yoyoing less with your fav models in fear of dinging it or developing vibe.
Yes, yoyos can get vibe after unscrewing them just once. There are soooooo many factors that can cause this. Sometimes it’s user error, sometimes it’s just a mismatch of tolerances between parts, sometimes it’s a manufacturing quality issue. You can mitigate this a bit by making sure you do everything correctly when assembling a yoyo but you can only do so much.
Yoyos WILL develop vibe over time. It’s inevitable as long as you use it. If it’s a collector’s item then I can understand why you’d want to keep it mint, but imo that’s a whole different hobby to yoyoing in general. I consider buying rare or expensive yoyos and keeping in a case as “collecting” not “yoyoing”.
If you like playing with your yoyos then imo it’s not worth chasing smoothness. Yes, I do wish everyone was perfectly smooth and stayed smooth but the world just doesn’t work that way. Unless you make the yoyo out of a completely indestructible material which doesn’t exist in the real world, vibe will always hapoen eventually.
Honestly, I’d say enjoy the yoyo. USE the yoyo. We buy yoyos cause they look cool and play well. Overly caring about vibe will detract the fun out of the playing aspect and honestly it’s not worth the tradeoff. Unless you’re constantly doing finger grinds which most people don’t do much anyways, it’s completely unnoticeable during play unless it has severe vibe.
Have fun with the yoyo. VIBE with the yoyo.
Thank you for listening to my TED talk.
I haven’t found that yo-yos accumulate vibe as a matter of course.
Most of my yo-yos are taken apart as soon as I get them. I test for nail vibe before and after and it hasn’t been an issue.
I have a couple that have nail vibe after hitting a hardwood floor. OTOH I have a couple that have no vibe at all after hits hard enough to break the ano (and bystanding objects).
I’m not that concerned about sub-pulse vibe, but I do check if a yo-yo I am using seems vibe-y. Per @GTDropKnot’s point, it is invariably a matter of whether I am throwing and binding cleanly.
I do believe that some yo-yos can develop vibe. After all, some brands make a point of tuning their runs to eliminate it. That alone indicates to me that brand new yo-yos aren’t guaranteed to assemble into a smooth end product, no matter the price point.
On the topic of price vs. resistance to vibe, I think this is complicated. Vibe is generally undesirable and often associated with insufficient QC. OTOH, there are reasons for vibe that have a kind of opposite correlation. Features like extreme width, thin walls, extreme weight distributions, weight rings, short axles to reduce center weight etc. can all contribute to a yo-yo that is more prone to developing vibe.
A lot of lower-end yo-yos keep things simple and this makes them more durable in general and resistant to vibe.
This is what I catch myself doing, I end up avoiding the ones that start vibing and I’d like to get past that.
Well said and this is what I needed to hear from someone other than myself. I don’t buy any yoyo’s with the intention of ever selling them, though, I may want to trade some day, but I’m not even worried about that aspect of it. As long I can expect them to all vibe eventually to a certain extent, I think I will be able to look past it. It just really sucks when you get a brand new yoyo and it’s super smooth out of the box, then ya take it apart and all of a sudden it’s developed vibe. I was really only expecting that if you treated your yoyo’s poorly or banged them up a lot. But I agree, I buy the yoyo’s to use not to look at in a static state… what’s the fun in that? I’m sure some do like collecting for the sake of collecting but I’ve never been that type of collector, I like to use what I collect. I also don’t want to be afraid to take them apart for maintenance, I’ve seen posts where people say to never take them apart, that is taking it a bit too far in my opinion. Like I said, none of the ones that developed vibe have affected play at all but I have had one or two that came with pulsing vibe, in that case, if it’s brand new, I will get in contact with the seller to see if there is anything they can do about it and this community and the yoyo manufacturers have been absolutely great about making things right. So no real complaints here and this is most certainly first world problems, so I feel silly even bringing it up but it has been something that’s been on my mind as of late.
I appreciate everyone’s feedback!
Yes.
I tend to do not care at all, I tend to ding basically all the stuff that I use everyday and if I destroy them, well will purchase another one at some point, the yoyo is a toy and if you do not care about the collectible side than go for it and do not be scared.
Vibe do not affect play except if it’s something insane, like wobbles and similar but than it mean that probably you broke your yoyo (it happened to me twice), at the end of the day it is what it is, I can’t be bothered to play always on a carpet or be careful of the tricks I am doing.
I hope the yoyo all the time to do silicone, change strings, unknot it (if it’s messed up) and screw it back without mind too much, relax and play is the key!
I only care if it’s bad and/or if I don’t know if it’s a permanent addition to the collection yet. A lot of yoyos I buy to try them out. And it often takes a while before I’m sold on them or decide to get rid of them.
If they develop damage/vibe durign that process that will kill the resale value if I decide to not keep it and make my hobby more expensive.
If I keep it a little vibe won’t bother me. I’ve only got one where the vibe is so bad I don’t like playing it anymore (an R-typ that was used for 5a pernamently and hit the ground so hard it seems the bearing seat isn’t straight anymore now.)
“I think its like…a yoyo enhancement”
I learned how to yo-yo on vibey yo-yos, so they don’t really bother me. In fact, I prefer a little bit of vibe over a dead smooth yo-yo. I like to be able to feel the yo-yo spinning on the string, which gives me a better idea of when the spin is dying.
To each their own.
I like this thought, it’s not a loved yoyo, until it has a bit of vibe. Ya gotta vibe with the vibe! I’m only 6 months into the hobby so it’s all very new to me. I did compare these modern day unresponsive to my Duncan Butterfly and compared to the old school yoyo’s the vibe is barely noticeable, which is to be expected on something that is made on a cnc machine rather than a mold. So I understand how people can get sick of the vibe conversation after awhile. But I can see if from both sides since I’m a novice and wasn’t really sure what to expect. I really don’t think I even measured vibe when I first started out, if so I would have noticed how much, say, The Sage yoyo vibes compared to The Shooting Star. Still, the one yoyo that I have that vibes more than anything is The Atom Smasher, I can’t stand that yoyo, the vibe is just ridiculous on it but I only paid like $20 for it, so not a huge loss and it very well could have been my fault.
Look up ill vibes clyw on youtube
That was a good one.
Looolll! As resident ding meister of our club I couldn’t care less. I have no yoyo I care to not ding, and this is why people don’t let me play their nice stuff unless they’ve given me express instructions to not “Todd” their yoyo. Vibe is great! And something I don’t think about. A ding is fine add character and is only a problem when it’s sharp.
Wobble on the other hand…
This 100% I like to feel it and I like to hear it.
