The only really vibe I care about is the really visible vibe. If it looks smooth/fine to me (keep in mind I’m a person that’s supposed to wear glasses but doesn’t) then it’s good for the most part. Also I don’t really count the beginning of the throw, I usually look at it mid play because if its just vibey cause of a wacky throw it will usually smooth itself out.
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Vibe was a useful indicator of how much spin you had left.
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So, ive noticed that when the yoyo vibes, it is a lot more difficult to control in horizontal and speed related tricks, because the yoyo is perpetually rubbing up against the walls. for all you 0a players, it doesnt matter much, but vib can get extremely annoying for us competitive players, because in a routine, we have a certain amount of expectations for that yoyo, and if just one variable changes, that could mess up our entire routine. i am really sorry about your infinity. i had the exact same thing happen with my beyond a couple years ago, except it didnt survive. you live and you learn. some people dont care about vibe, and some people wont buy a vibey throw. i never thought i would be one of those people, but i am. yoyoing is THE sport of personal preference. no yoyoers are the same (preference wise). and therefore, it only would infer that vibe is just another preference.
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I would also say this varies for competition players too.
I won US Nationals 5A in 2017 on a vibing sliepnir. And won BAC and CAL states 2018 5A on a vibey Shibari.
I know some competition players also don’t really care much either so it’s not just a competition player only thing.
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i agree. thats what i meant when i said that. sorry if you didn’t get what i said. looking back on my message i can see where it might seem like that was what i was saying.
Vibe doesn’t affect performance. Unless it wobbles right off that string of yours…
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it can effect tilt. thats why i said speed and horizontal. because those are two types of tricks that you need excellent control over the yoyo to preform.
It’s wobbling right off that string of yours then?
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no. it stops spinning, and sucks the string into the bearing seat.
Edit: and i dont know if it was implied, but just so you know, that sounded like an insult.
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Having been around awhile, vibe was never an issue with me. Probably 80% of my yoyos are of at least 10 year old vintage when it was not much of an issue. Serious wobble on the other hand is not acceptable. If you don’t know the difference you have a bad case of OCD.
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On yoyos that I play regularly, I really don’t care about vibe. However if it’s a yoyo from my case/collection that vibes then suddenly I’m unhappy? Weird logic but yeah that’s my take
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Im thinking that there might just be a misunderstanding about the definition of vibe. Some people don’t consider a yoyo to vibe until it has pulse vibe, some consider a yoyo vibey when it gets noisier and can be felt on the finger, and yet some others think vibe is just slight vibe on the fingernail.
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I personally consider anything with minor fingernail vibe to be “vibey”
There is often consistent vibe, and pulsing vibe, but neither of them I would consider wobble. Even for pulsing vibe if it’s rather small and consistent it doesn’t hinder the yoyo’s play imo.
Since the finger “meat” is less sensitive than the fingernail, often times minor fingernail vibe can’t be felt on the finger.
As sensitive I am at identifying even the most minor vibe, in the end I don’t really care about vibe. I personally don’t think it hinders play at all.
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On a separate note, I just untuned all of my yoyos today and boy, does it feel like I have lifted a burden off my shoulders. Now they pretty much all have a bit of vibe, but now I don’t carry the burden of having to tune all of my yoyos for hours just to make them 9.5 - 10/10 smooth.
Granted, all of my yoyos were able to be tuned to be super smooth, I hate having to retune them each time I unscrew to re silicone them. Besides, a vibey yoyo makes binds less slippy from my experience.
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Agreed. I dinged up my terrarian quite a lot while I was learning, but the vibe helps me bind even though I haven’t changed the response pads since I received it 5 months ago. (don’t worry about the vibe, you can still have fun with a vibey yoyo and I say this from experience 
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You hit the nail on the head there. I personally don’t mind vibe, but it definitely ruins my mood when I buy an expensive yoyo and know that I won’t be able to sell it anywhere near retail because of the vibe. I don’t really even have “the touch” so to speak. I’ve sold yoyos that were absolutely dead smooth as far as I could tell, but the buyer messaged me saying it had fingernail vibe so I sent a small refund. I took a break from yoyos from 2013 to 2017 and “fingernail vibe” was news to me when I came back. No one ever mentioned it pre 2013. It was string vibe or a wobble and we all know that wobble means VERY intense vibe haha.
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I want to bring this back up (sorry, I know vibe is a hot topic).
In short, do all yoyo’s eventually vibe?
I have several expensive yoyo’s that came smooth as glass, as you would expect from that price range but simply taking one apart can cause it to vibe and I can’t help it, I feel like if I spend $140 on a yoyo, it shouldn’t be that sensitive. It’s happened to all makes, so I’m not singling any one maker out. I have a a brand new one that I literally just bought, came with what I thought was an over lubed bearing, I cleaned it but it was still responsive so I simply swapped the bearing out, now it permanently has vibe, I’ve tried everything, nothing has made it as smooth as it was before I took it apart. I have another one, I’ve never dropped it, never dinged it on the carpet or tile floor, literally play with it like it’s made of glass but now it’s got noticeable vibe, all I did was change the string (I haven’t taken it apart). I was trying to find a thread in here that I know I read a response from a mod or someone who works for YYE. He said something like, “that’s why you’ll never see pro competitors swapping halves or opening box after box to find the smoothest yoyo because they know that all yoyo’s will eventually play the same”. Was this person saying that eventually all yoyo’s end up vibing? That was my assumption. I’m not talking about a pulsing vibe, just a normal vibe you can feel on a finger or thumb grind. It doesn’t really affect play but it does bother me, especially when I spend some big bucks on a yoyo. So am I expecting too much? I also have cheap yoyo’s that I use for practice that get banged up, I’m talking $30 - $40 range that still are as smooth as the day I bought them. I will say, all the ones that vibe are typically bi-metal but not all, I have one all metal that vibed from the day I bought it. I bought a replacement and that ones fine. Should I expect bi-metals to be much more fragile? I get that dropping them would cause vibe easier than an all metal but just taking a yoyo apart seems silly to me that I am risking the yoyo vibing, ya gotta take em apart evebtually. I really am trying hard to not let it bother me, but I’ve spent a couple thousand dollars on yoyo’s just in the past 6 months and and I’d say that about 7 or 8 of the 60 yoyo’s I own just started vibing for no obvious reason and most of them are my most expensive yoyo’s. Is this just something that I need to expect? Should I just learn to expect vibe, become one with the vibe? Start vibing with the vibe? Maybe even learn to prefer vibe?
I’m sorry for bringing this same old tired topic up but I really am curious. I tend to avoid the ones that vibe and that’s not cool, I have a lot of love and respect to give and all my yoyo’s deserve my love and respect. 
Thanks for your time and if you made it all the way through my rant, thanks for reading.
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If it’s not effecting play, I usually tend to not mind.
I will say however, if I spend 100+ on either a brand new production run throw, or a second hand throw that was described as smooth, and it vibes, I’m not going to be happy and would probably seek a replacement or refund.
When I first got back into throwing, I nitpicked vibe/smoothness. Then I got better at throwing and realized that, half the time I thought a yoyo had vibe, it was actually my throw that was causing it. I’m not claiming this to be the case in your situation. Just pointing out that that’s what got me to stop worrying about vibe so much, because half the time, it was my own fault and it took me quite awhile to realize.
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@IoSonoFormaggio was being dramatic imo. It’s def not that risky or a big deal. Even the yo-yos I bashed up playing 3a will only vibe seriously if I throw bad, otherwise I can only tell they have slight vibe if I use my fingernail to check. My nucleon was the first bimetal I got and has been really beat up lol it’s covered in flat spots from hitting the floor and walls and has no vibe still nor have the rings ever shifted. Idk I wouldn’t worry about vibe at all tbh. What does it matter if you can only tell there is vibe by touching the Yoyo.
The most common reason for vibe is a bad throw or the previous bind was loose. Maybe those yo-yos you have are binding loose bc the pads are worn down or the string you’re using is slippy or something.
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