Any chance the mighty flea still available from way back
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Finally, PayPal solved the dispute to the Tera-Banks Moore( John Rhynes) side. So, I have sent throw, now itās on the way to him, but he returned his money only because of shipping delays because of covid, that I canāt influence on. So the yoyo will come to him in some time, will keep there, and comeback to me. And I need to pay for shipping back, and I have already loosed money on shipping to USA. Would like to remind you, that yoyo wasnāt loosed!
Thanks a lot, Tera-Banks Moore( John Rhynes), my desire to sell yoyos disappears after deals with such people.
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No problem ŠŠ°Š²ŠµŠ» ŠŠ¾Š»ŃŠ°Š½Š¾Š² (Pavel Molchanov)
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This just looks bad on you. Shipping delays due to COVID19 are in no way the fault of the seller. But yes, throw a temper tantrum and get your money back, cause screw the other side, whoās a highly reputable seller.
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Bst has its way of sorting people like this out. @Yoyoman13371337 is a homie
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Yāall taking this too personal. Iāve waited long enough for the Yo-yo, which I never blamed him for taking so long. All iāve done is outline the rules heās broken and told everyone to be careful about sending money as family and friends, which he will try to get you to do. Iām getting my money back, hes getting his yo-yo back. But yeah, sort me out on a Yo-yo forum.
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No, man, you havenāt been waiting enough. You opened a dispute since 25 days after yoyo was shipped. 25 days is normal for international shipping, but you have already opened dispute on this moment.
I have already said about FF for 3 times, I donāt try anybody to do it, I just offering to pay in way they prefer. Donāt lie again please. For sure Iāll
try to appeal this dispute. You have got your money back, Iāll get my yoyos. But money for shipping I wonāt get. So I donāt see justice here.
Anyway, itās not a problem for me, 30$ is nothing. More unpleasant for me, that there are such people, who doesnāt listen to anybody and closed on yourself.
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āNo, man, you havenāt been waiting enough.ā - You donāt get to tell me how long to wait.
āYou opened a dispute since 25 days after yoyo was shipped.ā - They made their decision based on the evidence they had today, not from the evidence they had the day i sent in the dispute, so that is irrelevant.
ā25 days is normal for international shipping, but you have already opened dispute on this moment.ā - Iāve waited 50 days already. If it miraculously decides to ship tomorrow i will still have to wait another 21 days at minimum.
āI have already said about FF for 3 times, I donāt try anybody to do it, I just offering to pay in way they prefer. Donāt lie again please.ā - Still failing to see where i lied about it. I said you would try to get people to pay as family and friends, which you admitted to doing yourself in an earlier post very regularly.
āFor sure Iāll try to appeal this dispute.ā - Good Luck
āYou have got your money back, Iāll get my yoyos. But money for shipping I wonāt get.ā - When you send something back to amazon, do you send them money to reimburse them for their shipping costs?
āSo I donāt see justice here.ā - Ok.
āAnyway, itās not a problem for me, 30$ is nothing.ā - Cool, so why make a whole post complaining about it?
āMore unpleasant for me, that there are such people, who doesnāt listen to anybody and closed on yourself.ā - I picked up another hobby in the 50 days i was sitting at home waiting for this Yo-yo. Youāre not going to talk the interest back in to me.
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Ā«You donāt get to tell me how long to wait.Ā»- you havenāt asked about it. I didnāt think you are going to open a dispute since such short period of time. The last my message to you was about shipping delays, then you opened a dispute
āThey made their decision based on the evidence they had today, not from the evidence they had the day i sent in the dispute, so that is irrelevant.ā- the decision of paypal is strange for me, but it again confirm, that buyer is more protected on it then seller. But I donāt discuss the reason of decision of paypal here. Itās another story.
ā Iāve waited 50 days already. If it miraculously decides to ship tomorrow i will still have to wait another 21 days at minimum.ā-oh, no, you havenāt waited 50 days, you waited only 25 days. After it you opened a dispute. The time after it relates to your unwillingness to wait and impatience.
Ā« Still failing to see where i lied about it. I said you would try to get people to pay as family and friends, which you admitted to doing yourself in an earlier post very regularly.Ā»- I have already understood, that itās hard to understand for you, but I will try to explain again: by asking send as ff OR COVERING G&S FEES I just showing, that in deals for me fees is an issue of buyers, that I need to get the amount that I evaluate my yoyo. So I canāt understand, where I have fails and still failing.
ā Good Luckā- Thank you and mutually.
ā When you send something back to amazon, do you send them money to reimburse them for their shipping costs?ā- here is not Amazon, you are dealing with concrete people, not with shops. By PayPal rules if something didnāt suit buyer in god, he is sending it back for his money. In this situation you havenāt got the god, so of course, there isnāt a requirement to you from paypal to send it back for you money. But decision of paypal doesnāt mean your truth. As I see, they didnāt consider Covid situation, which is really strange for me.
ā Okā- I have already understood, that justice isnāt about you.
ā Cool, so why make a whole post complaining about it?ā-Because of you wrote a post in my account, and I feel obligated to continued this story. People are reading it, I should keep them informed. This is my deal, suddenly not successful, buy my. And Iāll write posts till this situation ends.
āI picked up another hobby in the 50 days i was sitting at home waiting for this Yo-yo. Youāre not going to talk the interest back in to me.ā- i suspected that you lost an interest to this yoyo, so you changed your decision and opened a dispute so quickly. My congratulations, that you achieved what you wanted. Hope you are really happy because of this.
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Haha Iāll let you know when youāre yoyo is on the way. Might take a while with whole covid situation.
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That all, that you can answer? Weakly
And thanks, but you donāt have to let me know about yoyo, Iām keeping track of itās movement.
āyou havenāt asked about it. I didnāt think you are going to open a dispute since such short period of time. The last my message to you was about shipping delays, then you opened a disputeā - Ding Ding Ding Wow youāre finally getting it. It was never a personal attack against you, i was just tired of waiting. Which is my decision, not yours.
āthe decision of paypal is strange for me, but it again confirm, that buyer is more protected on it then seller. But I donāt discuss the reason of decision of paypal here. Itās another story.ā - Youāre strange.
āoh, no, you havenāt waited 50 days, you waited only 25 days. After it you opened a dispute. The time after it relates to your unwillingness to wait and impatience.ā - Iāve waited 50 days as of this post. Come on, keep up here. Iām tired of repeating myself, impatience and all.
āI have already understood, that itās hard to understand for you, but I will try to explain again: by asking send as ff OR COVERING G&S FEES I just showing, that in deals for me fees is an issue of buyers, that I need to get the amount that I evaluate my yoyo. So I canāt understand, where I have fails and still failing.ā - Whichever way you cut it its against Paypal Terms of Service and B / S / T rules.
āThank you and mutually.ā - This whole situation is not a problem for me anymore, only your problem, therefore I do not need luck.
āhere is not Amazon, you are dealing with concrete people, not with shops. By PayPal rules if something didnāt suit buyer in god, he is sending it back for his money. In this situation you havenāt got the god, so of course, there isnāt a requirement to you from paypal to send it back for you money. But decision of paypal doesnāt mean your truth. As I see, they didnāt consider Covid situation, which is really strange for me" - Well you have to go through Paypal to dispute my dispute, so iā'm gonna have to say Paypalās opinion is the only one that matters.
āI have already understood, that justice isnāt about you.ā - Wow, right again. Justice is about the maintenance or administration of what is especially by the impartial adjustment of conflicting claims or the assignment of merited rewards or punishments.
āBecause of you wrote a post in my account, and I feel obligated to continued this story. People are reading it, I should keep them informed. This is my deal, suddenly not successful, buy my. And Iāll write posts till this situation ends.ā - Canāt wait to hear the rest of your story.
āi suspected that you lost an interest to this yoyo, so you changed your decision and opened a dispute so quickly. My congratulations, that you achieved what you wanted. Hope you are really happy because of this." - Yeah, I had 3 weeks in quarantine to think of a new hobby. I suspect it takes you longer, but i have already understood, that its hard to understand for you, that there are better things to wait 2 months for than a Yo-yo.
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i have not bought anything from @Yoyoman13371337 because he was pretty rude when i inquired.
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Interesting, I enquired about multiple yoyos at different times and he always got back to me promptly, and courteously.
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In what place was I rude? When said, that I donāt like when somebody spend my time on empty talks after you disappeared ?
There is a tone of people, who write me, ask about throws, ask pictures and disappear. That was you. I have write you immediately, the day was left.
And Iām not sure that you didnāt buy because āI was rudeā, because you continued to ask about yoyos.
Even if you are not interested itās better to say, that you arenāt. Appreciate others time.
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this @anon49438433
when people canāt settle their differences, PRIVATELY, without turning it into another global international incident, it reflects poorly on both. @Yoyoman13371337 immediately jumped on the board to bash @JohnRhynes when he filed a complaint with paypal - the same thing he did with @joeboy77ā¦
if you have an issue with someone, handle it like an adult. donāt try to be the FIRST person to openly whine about it on the internetā¦ @Yoyoman13371337 and then just keep pummeling on it. whatever everybodyās else thumbs up are, your handlings of disputes are what matters mostā¦ the handling of the grade c e1ns situationā¦ how you treat ALL your customers, even if the did mess up, is what matters
i know i wouldnāt deal with @Yoyoman13371337 just because of nonsense like this. if you had a store, would you stand out in front of it in a whiny effin tirade like this? how many more customers would yout get?!!
GOODS & SERVICES IS NOT YOUR ENEMY, even if both parties are friendsā¦ use your brains!
and customersā¦ cāmon! stop being idiots. read reviews, do researchā¦ you can find yoyosā¦ without the frustration, locally (not trying to shizz on his biz, but really?)ā¦ if someone is giving you a hard time, or acting smugā¦ yoyos are fricking everewhere!
no offense @Yoyoman13371337 but good god, this post is absurd
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Goods and services for life
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The meaning of my post was to show people, that even if they canāt influence on the situation, if there is just a delay in shipping(not loosing), if you reply immediately and keep a buyer informed, there are people, who wonāt listen to you and consider another side. I showed, that John Rhynes is such person, and Iām sure it will influence on somebodyās decision about dealing with him. And it was my goal.
Of course I wonāt do that if there were real problems with a package. I would immediately refund money, if Iām sure that the package lost, but in this situation there is 100% of his dishonesty.
This issue was impossible to solve concretely with John Rhynes, after he opened a dispute he began to ignore me. I sent him some information from post, said, that itās common case for now, but he didnāt answer me.I waited some time before write this post.
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If this is going to degrade into a gripe-fest, I think the admins should close this post and yoyoman can start over freshā¦ minus the negativity.
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