YoYo should be send to opera house

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the yo yo contest is reaching its limit. it’s hard to understand why the most creative activity is restricted to 1 min pre ,3 min final and many blocks of standard.

we need the next level performance , we need real "free"style .

there are many other problems avoiding the development:

1.few pro yoer get enough income to keep them moving.

2.no people pay a dollar for yoyoing performance. (there is no performance in opera house that require audience ticket while you can watch contest for free)

3.the one man yo tricks are reaching its limit. (the tech level is almost highest now)

you can define yoyo as sports or art. then compare with piano or football. thousands people pay ticket for piano concert and football match. how about yoyo ? there is hardly any common audience who do not yoyo but pay attention on yoyo contest. yoyoing should have common audience , there should be some fans pay for tickets. if not, the only value would be sell yoyo . pianist do not need to sell piano and half of the audience come to concert can not play piano and will never try to play it. pianist do not have world piano contest to compete each other in 3 min.

we don’t need to introduce many people try yoyoing, but we need some one support the game. we need some one who got amazed by the performance indeed. yoyo will become more popular , artistic , great under this circumstances .

we need some yoer got a try for new way performance of yoyoing .

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Yoyoing is a niche hobby and quite frankly nobody is going to pay money to watch even 10+ minutes of play, especially those who don’t yoyo themselves.

Even people who do yoyo don’t like to watch more than 2-3 minutes of yoyoing at a time, that’s why quick Instagram posts have become more popular than longer YouTube trick videos. Then There’s the issue of players even being able to come up with more than 5 minutes of material to demonstate in the first place.

As for more artistic performance, it’s cool and all for a bit but even I as a yoyoer grow bored of it pretty quickly.

I definitely think we need to figure out a way to make yoyoing more popular but I don’t think your idea is the way to go at all.

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I thought this was more or less solved by the different genres?

1A – Tricks with one yo-yo. yep, extreme talent + extreme machining has produced the optimal set of single yo-yo tricks any human can perform.

2A – OK but what if you added one more yo-yo… and SURPRISE *********** THEY ARE BOTH RESPONSIVE so you gotta xtreme loopinate them like constantly all the time

3A – Oh I see you doing some cute tricks with your one unresponsive yoyo that’s pretty cool well SURPRISE *********** NOW ITS TWO UNRESPONSIVE YOYOS AT ONCE!!1!one

4A – Hey you like doing your tricks with that yoyo string right well SURPRISE *********** THE DING-DANG STRING IS NO LONGER ATTACHED TO THE FLIPPIN YOYO now you gotta just kinda freakin whip it on there like Indiana Jones with a lasso

5A – Hmm you still have that yoyo string attached to your finger right ayyy SURPRISE *********** NOW THE YOYO AINT EVEN ATTACHED TO YOUR FINGER NO MORE, oh and by the way there’s a counterweight on the other side so you can bolero it up dawg

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I think the intent of the post was to propose a plan to spread yo-yos to the masses, make yoyoing more profitable for the pros, etc.

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It’s been around a long time, contests go way back to the early Duncan days. Today there are a few people who put on performances at parties and such, much like magic acts. Of those a small minority actually make a living at it. If it hasn’t taken off by now, it’s not going to, as much as a few starry eyed kids who’d like to make a living at it dream about it. Has about as much prospect as getting people to pay to watch ping pong.

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shut-up-and-take-my-money

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a Disclaimer: Warning. The following post contains a whole lotta words. Those faint of heart or just generally against attempting to consider any possible importance that may be contained in anothers’ Viewpoint; should STOP IMMEDIATELY and just spend their time more effectively trying to pass level 2500 on Candy Crush.

Sadly; I don’t hold out much hope for ticket buying spectators on any medium to large scale venue.

Not to turn a positive into a negative; but Modern Contest level players unintentionally contribute little to speed the momentum of increased interest spreading to ‘non-yoyo’ spectators.

If you are a yoyo thrower; you may/can/do understand what you might be watching at a yoyo contest.
And no doubt you can appreciate the madd skills on display. But because the way the Contest points system is set up; a guy jamming through a maze of crazy combos; is only a blur to a large percentage of potential spectators. They just can’t grasp the amazing abilities of the contestants.

And if yo go to a Contest where the 1A has 50 players set to go on stage; it’s even a challenge for the Judges to stay awake; much less any group of people other than yoyo people.

A certain lingering stigma about yoyoing doesn’t help. I remember several years ago; I was watching Britains’ Got Talent. A guy named Luke Roberts went up on stage to do a really nice Yoyo demonstration. If memory serves; he did some 1A, some 2A and some 4A? But before he even started; Simon Cowell had the crappiest scowl on his face and was kinda slumped in his chair. He basically wanted to know what could be interesting about seeing another person throw a yoyo? I remember Clint Armstrong was also on a Talent show. He did an amazing routine. But these talented guys eventually lose to: dancers, singers, dog tricks or anything that seems to already have a broader appeal. Pretty sad; I think.

I was really thrilled when ‘Black’ was accepted by Cirque du Soleil. The first yoyo act ever incorporated into the traveling show. Blacks’ dramatic and amazing style and skills; show the impressive way to display yoyo skills as: flowing, difficult and beautiful at the same time.

He also did a TED presentation. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gnuFrtTNUTc
And seemed to be a real crowd pleaser.

It seems logical that the more flowing and artistic style of yoyoing is easier to follow and appreciate(by a larger audience) than a room full of contestants Blazing Krazy high speed combos that even the Judges have trouble following. I am not saying that is fair. It is just reality.

The bottom line is simple. The main group of people that will ever appreciate yoyo skills are yoyo players and casual throwers and a certain number of non throwers that are just amazed by anybody that can do something that they cannot do.

I would hope that I am completely Wrong. But sadly; I am not.

I don’t think it’s a big sad thing or a bad thing. I mean there is always hope; right?

Look at all the people making and selling yo-yos. And all the Contests; Worldwide. Look at all the places selling yo-yos. I’m not buying em all🤓. I think the yoyo situation is moving along rather nicely.

I started messing with yo-yos back in 1998. I have seen a multitude of people come in Strong and fade out with not even a puff of smoke. Players that seem to be building up momentum; and they vanish without a whisper. I love yoyos as much now than I did the first day I bought a yoyo at Golden Apple Comics; 20 years ago. And I would gladly pay for Contest tickets; to either help pay for the venue and/or prize money for the contestants. And I know others that would; too.

I think this is a great time to appreciate yo-yos at any/every level. Realize that over 90 percent of people that yoyo; will Never, ever enter a Yoyo Contest at any level.

But as long as you keep throwing and keep the spirit alive; anything is possible.

Where’s the ticket line?

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if you regard a yoyo freestyle as a song , you will see the most notes is 1/32 beat. people get crazy if they keep listening strongly intense music. you can hardly find some combo that we can call the movement 1 beat.

why we do not get some slow yo tricks ? the most important thing is they do not score points , further the spinning power of modern yoyo are still not enough to support slow tricks ?

there is few dancing performance by one person. yo yoing should put some guys together doing some clean flow tricks that people can catch them without blink their eyes. the frequency should not be 1/32 beat. Team Shaqler give an example in their 2010 wyyc ap routine :

common audience who do not yoyoing can clearly get the beat change following one hand hop the fence to two hand hop the fence. the 360 circular hop and different variation trapze land create good vision experience for the clear big movement with strong sense of rhythm .

the yoyo scene should put more focus on the performance . we should have orchestration yoyo , jazz yoyo , electrical house yoyo, relaxing yoyo, tropical beach yoyo and so on.

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I m very confused that players put crazy hard work on intense complicate tricks for years . what are they looking for ? the honor of national championship ? or the winning prize ?

the organizer of the contest is also lose money . and they can not find ways to solve the problems.

why don’t the organizer try hold concert for high level performance yoyo and sell tickets ? it may earn much money that support the yoyo scene.

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actually i don’t think judges can do right with these crazy tricks. the judging standard is myth.

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Again. No matter how you cut, no matter how “exciting” you make it, people aren’t going to pay to watch anyone yoyo.

Even if players started focusing more on artistic performance like you want, it’d be hard to get a lot non-yoyoers to come watch, even if it was FREE. If we were to actually charge people to watch, forget it, nobody’s gonna be showing up.

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Yoyoing isn’t music and people are not attracted to most things just for the beat, artistic or not.

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I would love to see yoyo in an opera house, not gonna lie

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