Yo-yoing Martial Artists...

Yo-yo requires a certain discapline and drive that is found commonly in career martial artists. I myself am a Kempo karate instructor for two different dojos. So my question to you is; (if you study any martial art) What discaplines have you trained in and what rank (if applicable) have you attained?

I have my second degree black belt in Ashite-do Kempo (dav-ryu) and have studied Aikido, Shaolin Kempo, Iaido, Wing Chun, Judo, Jujitsu, Escrima, Chin-na, and Tai-chi outside my main system.

I throw a YYJ Dark Magic, a Yomega Maverick, and a Pocket Pro Zombie mainly. I want a YYJ SR-71 in the worst way though. so what about you?

definitely agree with the sentiment that yo-yoing and martial arts can rely upon/develop similar kinds of internal focus. i mainly practice aikido (nidan), as well as muso-shinden ryu iaido and shindo-muso ryu jodo. i studied tae kwon do and tai ch’i ch’uan in my youth.

i’ve alluded to training often in my blog.

always nice to meet another ā€˜yo-yo budoka’. :wink:

Hi, maybe mixing wing chun and 2 A would be somewhat possible adapting hand and knives techniques.

I was thinking the same thing, I’m pretty sure it can be done, heck, it probably has been done already.

I quit, but I used to be a 1st degree brown belt in ISKF Shotokan Karate. ISKF- International Shotokan Karate Federation. Also, there are 3 degrees of brown before 1st degree black. I have down some basic Tae Kwon Do at some classes also. Nothing much past this though. I have always been interested in other martial arts, mainly Kempo and Tai-chi. As for my disciplines I would go to class twice a week for an hour and a half to two hours. I was quite fortunate because I had the privilege of having 2 sometimes 3 black belts train me at the same time. And every 3 months go to a clinic and usually test. :slight_smile: As for my main throws, (seeing as how you have posted yours) are my DM, New Breed, Protostar, and Zombie at the moment. :slight_smile:

I’m a first degree black belt in tae kwon do. But the dojo shut down. My main throws are hatrick, trinity, and don’t forget campfire.

I take judo lessons from tim schwab, really a great teacher. I’m not if it’s helped me with yoyoing a whole lot, but it’s at least kept me in shape.

In my youth I achieved the title of 3rd Degree Red Belt in Shaolin Kenpo (which at my particular school was one under a 1st Degree Black Belt. Also in the Marine Corps. I achieved Green Belt which is 2 under Black. My favorite throws currently are the YYF Frantic, YYJ Lyn Fury, MMZ (MinusMike FHZ), and Barco Energy.

Pretty interesting you should ask. I just participated in a martial arts demo today! I am a first degree brown belt. My teacher teaches many styles, so we learn how to spar, grapple, use weapons, and perform different styles of forms.
As for yoyos, I mostly use my hitman if I go out somewhere, but at home I might use my Senza Nome, Dv888, or Bully. I also have an atmosphere set up for 5a.

I’m certainly not an expert about martial arts in any way, but thinking about it, I think yoyo would be more suited for chinese martial arts rather than japanese ones

can’t find the proper words to explain why tho, it has to do with flow and smoothness of movements in general, I find Karate maybe too ā€œhardā€ and not ā€œflowingā€ enough.

now I can be totally wrong, don’t quote me on this ???

Im currently take Vovinam (Vietnamese Martial Arts). Its more of a flowing art, but i also incorporate Muay Thai into it too. I currently throw SCLBs and Protostars.

I wonder if we could gather somehow?

wing chun would be nice with responsive/short strings yoyos IMO, 2A that is or maybe 5a as well, I don’t know
as advanced wing chun has techniques to use with a staff (5A ?) or dual knives (2A ?)

it would definately work with capoeira (spelling?)

on a slightly different note, what about yo yo and dancing (regular dancing, hip hop dancing) Some performances already are pretty close to it

I studied some Wing Chun but I don’t really have a rank. I’m hope’n to train again in the future but who knows. I’m looking to get my oldest in Pai Lum soon.

For 2A you would need real short strings and 5A would have to be 9 1/2 feet to match the size of the staff, no sure how that would work out :smiley:

Lets figure this out! It sounds like a fun challenge to mix Martial Arts with Yo-yo - lets makes videos combining the two Somehow … post 'em and be awesome like we are! Any of you guys in MA or NH for a collaboration?

I was more focused on the yo-yo, but one can see the martial arts creeping in.

I’m in the middle of the U.S.  It would be GREAT to meet more people, but I would have to do a lot of planning and spend some money I don’t quite have.

Sensei Dave, if you would like to keep an eye out for contests in your region (east coast~ish is pretty active), and contacted all of us again, and then hyped it once the date got close, I bet you could get a good turnout with other martial artists and yo-yoers.

-Jacob

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yes I mentionned the short strings, and I agree with staff’s length but it doesn’t mean it’s not adaptable ā€œas isā€, but I’ve never been that far in WC so I can’t tell, I’ll go back to training next year, maybe I’ll try to figure out something

the point where I don’t see WC fit is that it’s a martial art that is not really ā€œartisticā€ while yo yoing purpose is at least remotely artistic

but I could imagine a punch combo with 2 yo yos spinning and probably some other techniques too, but any of em would require a total revamp including the yo yo moves instead of fists and also making sure the strings wouldn’t cross in any way, but a basic WC punch combo would definately work IMO, it’s probably worth trying but I don’t know any 2A

What about using Taiji (Tai Chi ) poses as the final beats of each trick? Say for example landing a modified trapeze on ā€œwild horse parts its maneā€? Maybe with any form or kata? A nunchaku form for 5a? I may try the Taiji thing but my 5a is lacking for such an endeavour. ::slight_smile:

to me, the idea of adding material that’s ā€˜non-functional’ to martial arts forms is frivolous and devoid of use. i’ve never understood the appeal of flowery martial arts ā€˜demos’ or techniques/forms that are so diluted by flashy performance that their connection with any martial efficacy has withered. i think that there are many similarities between yo-yoing and the martial arts in terms of how the brain approaches them and in terms of how material is disseminated/taught (just as said similarities are there in painting or sculpture or almost any pursuit that may inform our ā€˜way of life’). however, while both may inform each other, i don’t see any use in trying to artificially apply yo-yoing directly to the martial arts or vice versa.

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you need to get a hold of the whole form>function side of things ^^

and also dream a little, the man’s greatest achievements were done after some people’s craziest dreams

at one point we thought traveling past 100km/h would dislocate the human body, we walked on the moon, heck, you’re on the other side of the world and we’re discussing

I say dream on dreamer

pragmatism isn’t making anyone’s life fun

then one day we’ll see a crazy vid mixing martial arts and yo yo and then people will just follow as usual.

Be positive man, mixing yo yo with martial arts might be pointless but it’ll definately look good enough to worth trying

no. while i appreciate the dismissive condescension, what you just posted represents everything that i detest about modern ā€˜show’ martial arts.

i prefaced the entire point by saying ā€˜for me’. it doesn’t matter to me how you interpret their application, but ā€˜for me’, the martial arts are not something i do ā€˜for fun’. likewise, i don’t practice them to ā€˜look good’. not everything that makes you a better, more complete person needs to be about fun or looking good. (that’s not to say i don’t HAVE fun practicing martial arts - i do. i just don’t allow fun to guide my practice/study). i have plenty of aspects of my life that are all about fun (hi, yo-yoing).

and it’s not a matter of unwillingness to dream. i’ve seen a hundred martial arts demos that are ā€˜all flash, no smash’. i’m not impressed by someone in a sequin outfit doing some kind of artificial, 540-degree jump-spinning-hook-kick and i’d be even less impressed if they were doing 2a at the same time. it’s not that i believe it’s impossible. it’s that i believe that it represents the dilution of traditional martial principles; lessons that i think were useful and relevant and which our society is neglecting/forgetting. budo is about BU (protection/defense). occasionally, your practice will be fun and occasionally it might even look cool. but if you’re letting ANYTHING besides ā€˜BU’ dictate the terms of your study… then i think your time would be better spent doing other things.

yo-yo’s are for play. yo-yo’s are for fun. the martial arts i study are decidedly not. it doesn’t make them less valuable.