I love my 2.0, but if I needed a new one I would probably get a brand new one just for giggles. Or a mint one in the BST because they have better colors than YYE.
One of the issues here is that people rarely want to trade in yoyos of smaller retail values. The majority of BST threads are filled with yoyos in the $100 retail bracket, or perhaps conversely at the low end of the price spectrum. Few people seem to want to trade $40-$60 throws. A sensible reason for this is that they have become quite affordable to buy new. Once youâve factored shipping costs into a BST price, you may often not save a huge amount of money by purchasing second hand, and the difference between $30 second hand and $40 new is not enough to make people want to âBSTâ. You see this in the fact that the Duncan Barracuda is well thought of, and will disappear rapidly from BST threads, whereas a dv888 will stick around.
Of course the points above are well made: there are heaps of dv888s around. And of course, although no one would ever admit it for fear of being seen to be pandering to the âcoolâ crowd, many YYF/Duncan throws just arenât really considered show off pieces I donât think. This ties into the first paragraph, because YYF/Duncan throws arenât as exclusive. They donât hold the same status that CLYW/OD/General Yo do. This is despite some of them being fantastic players. These things go in and out with time, and so you never know, Duncan may go back to being the thing to have. Particularly if they keep making throws like the Barracuda. And although this may sound harsh, itâs not meant to be. Most of us have a little bit inside that makes us want to pick up a rare-ish yoyo. Especially if it plays well too. I know I do. But this doesnât mean I donât want to throw a Catalyst a lot.
You know I never really got or liked this mentality. I mean I see it all the time, and I donât hold it against anybody, but it seems like for a throw to be good it has to be something that others donât have. The term better used to describe this is Neener Neener. Iâll keep my Dv888 thank you.
Iâm not saying itâs a good thing or a bad thing. Itâs just a fact. I think it depends on what youâre trying to get out of yoyoing. If you want a wicked collection then thatâs fine, and you pick up as many [insert cool company here] as possible. If you want great yoyos to throw, then in all likelihood you pick up a complete mix of companies, because most companies produce some outstanding throws. Or you do the reverse snobbery thing and only use âlower endâ throws. The crucial part here is that despite the OP none of this really matters. It happens, and itâs not the end of the world. And as long as you get a kick out of what you do, who cares really. Just whatever you do, enjoy it. (Thatâs probably my HaruRay ending )
I like a bit of all worlds, and particularly I want to support new companies, cause they are clearly the future of advancing the fun!
âSmall companies are the futureâ - So if they become successful they become irrelevant?
Sorry your logic just confuses me.
Perceived ârarenessâ is bought on BST more than actual yoyos. If you want yoyos for performance you will do very well, if you want emotion or status you need to pay for it.
No they certainly donât become irrelevant. At all. Sorry, I didnât mean it like that. I only meant that bringing as many young aspiring creators to the point where they can routinely design and build yoyos can only help the whole community. People think about designing things in different ways, and so the best way for advancement is to have as many different people designing as possible.
Oh, and as an aside Ben, YYF made me very happy by putting out a new run (at least I think a new run) of the 7075 Catalysts. Iâd been hoping to find some more for sale! Long may the catalyst continue!
Oh just a heads up Iâm not being parsnickety here towards any one person. I just kind of find the concept of rareness to be funny among yoyo companies to be funny.
Let me break down how I see things based on my preferences and your offerings:
YYF 2.0: This is not a model I am interested in.
dv888: While nothing is wrong with this model, I have one, donât need another and itâs a model thatâs just kind of bland. Popular item, and if you can get one off BST, Iâd say thatâs a good route.
888 - any version: not a model of interest to me.
Hectic: Again, not a model of interest to me.
Whip: Got 2. My kid has one. Great yoyo. Donât need another.
Metropolis: What was Duncan thinking? This one is great IF itâs not a string eater, which I think theyâve fully fixed that problem. I think this yoyo was a bit ahead of itâs time and under-priced.
Just be patient. You canât predict what people are looking for. Bump your post daily, keep your thread locked and clean except to post bumps, be fast to reply to inquiries and in some cases, be prepared to negotiate if you decide you have room to negotiate.
The simple answer is either not âhipâ or they already have got them. My YYF I chose to get rid of on a popular auction website as they were not good trading fodder and I had moved into more full sized throws (they were older undersized YYF). Good luck and keep bumping somebody may want them eventually.
I hate it when people post there whole collections in the BST with captions like, âYou will never get this oneâ.
Post your whole collection in the Yo-Yo Exhibition section. Only post the few things you want to sell or trade in the BST.
About the whole YYF thing⌠They are hard to trade and sell simply because their supply is higher than the demand. High end YYF throws play great! They should only release very limited amounts of their high end yoyos⌠this might make them âcoolâ again. ;D