Why The "Peak 2" Hate?

No, Evan, get both

And an ‘09 888

Or is it ‘ 07? I can’t keep the holy 888 straight in my head, I just like them all lol

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I’d be down to go fishing with yoyodoc

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…But I only have 1 soul!

Well yeah, but it’s a good one. Ya gotta haggle!

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Well, if you can handle Great White shark fishing with a 3 foot handline… you’re in, homie!

You’re alit taller than I am…. So, I’ll hold on to your belt and you can hang over the side of the rubber raft.

Most excellent.

But whatever you do, don’t say Beetlejuice 3 times until you see the Sharks eyes.

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Your soul is worth more than an OG Peak. (You would realize when you had it in your hand and realized that it is just a overrated yoyo;)
By then it would be too late because the devil doesn’t accept returns…

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Actually, I was gonna sell it to the Flying Dutchman, he doesn’t accept returns either, but he just keeps his souls in a little bag on his side, I should be able to distract him with a nice sock or something.


Not to mention, the Flying Dutchman won’t send me to Hell, just his closet… which can be escaped by going through the Perfume Department.

I may have watched a lot of Spongebob as a wee lad.

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So let me try to wrap my mind around this… You are smart enough to make the astute observation that my reply to yours was 1000 words long. Congratulations it looks like you passed your math test.

Now that being said, let me explain to you from my old age experience three things that you have to do in life to live at least as long as I have

Number one ……pay your taxes. Number two ……pay for your mistakes. And most importantly, number three…… PAY ATTENTION!

When you were speed reading my thousand word oratory, I’m guessing… Only guessing… That you completely missed the part at the very beginning that clearly stated that you have the right to have an opinion. And that I can have my opinion also. And if my opinion doesn’t align with your opinion, that does not mean I am right and that does not mean that you are wrong. That is a very, very, very clear explanation regarding your right to have an opinion no matter how diametrically opposite mine may be. So just in case you’re too lazy to scroll back up a couple inches I’m gonna copy and paste the beginning of my thousand word oratory and if you read it slowly, maybe you’ll get it this time.

“You give your opinions on this forum. Nothing wrong with that.

Nothing wrong with you understanding that I have my right to give my opinions on this forum.

If you give your opinion first, and I give my opinion second and it doesn’t agree or align with your view, that does not mean that I am automatically right. And that does not mean that I am automatically an authority to derail your opinion.

You obviously feel strongly enough about your viewpoint on various matters, that you are willing to step up and type out your opinions, knowing that is possible someone else’s view may not align with yours.
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How could you possibly misunderstand misinterpret misalign My very clear understanding that you are entitled to have an opinion unless you just weren’t PAYING ATTENTION!

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not reading any of this
argue with someone else

I’m happy you enjoy peak 2! jealous of those bugger that get you free og peak

have a good day yoyodoc

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The Peak 2 is a great sequel to the Peak, and plays very similar in my opinion. Notice the people who claim the Peak 2 is nothing like the Peak and is inferior have several Peaks in their collection? It’s an attempt at inflating the value of their Peaks and keeping the price high. Objectively, it is a much better performing yoyo than any of the original Peaks. Does that make it better across the board? To some it may, to many, it doesn’t.

What makes the Peak so coveted isn’t that it’s a great performing yoyo, it’s out performed by practically everything available on the market. The story and the obscurity are what make the Peak so coveted. People enjoy having something that is rare and valued. The Peak 2 simply does not have the same history.

I think the main reason why there is a lot of dislike from Peak owners towards the Peak 2 is that the yoyo isn’t identical to the Peak. It’s different, and what a lot of people wanted was essentially a fourth run of the Peak, with better and more consistent manufacturing. This wasn’t in Chris’s vision as he did not wish to resurrect the Peak to that extent.

There is also the overseas manufacturing aspect to this as well that did not sit well with fans, as some felt the Peak 2 should have been manufactured in Canada like the first 2 runs of the Peak, yet oddly enough are ok with snatching up the third run of the Peak, which was made in the U.S. by One Drop.

Long story short, I would suggest to anyone who wants to own a yoyo like the Peak, and does not want to pay the unreasonable price for one, to find a Peak 2, or wait for the Peak 3 coming out sometime in 2025. I hope CLYW names it Peak3D as a play on words rather than just the Peak 3.

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@yoyospirit
respectfully, no
how good peak 2 is make no difference to peak 1 price actually… there is literally nothing clyw could do or release today that change how much a 20 year old made in canada/usa relic is worth.

I do not appreciate you using this as vector of attack as to why someone or me say they dislike peak 2, and pinning anybody opinion that does not agree with you as some nefarious greedy plan to stay “peak rich”

It don’t matter how fast new $68,000 2025 Shelby GT500 goes around Nurburgring, or how many people love how good of car it is…
1967 Ford Shelby Mustang GT500 Super Snake still sells at auction for $2.2 million every day.

You think anything classic USA car owner can say about new GT500 can devalue their $2.2 million dollar collector car from the past? this is ludicrous. come on.

yyf re-release new identical $60 07 888 clone. its good, but 07 888 still worth $300+. nothing changed. clyw could re-release identical CAD file made in USA peak today… OG 28s still worth $1600, most regular OG peak still worth $500+. i am telling you nothing would change peak price. no opinion, release. nothing.

you can change price with time machine maybe - go back to 10x original supply of 20 year old yoyo

Fender guitar make new almost telecaster every year for 75 year. 53’ telecaster blackguard is still a $70k instrument, despite the new ones playing and being better overall.

you are simply 100% wrong for saying people who don’t like peak2 want their peak 1 to be expensive. i can give you 100+ real world example of where re-relasing something actually increase value of original, across many industry.

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Sheesh, you sure are getting defensive over something you are claiming is not true.

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so being defence invalidate the 1953 $70k fender guitar, and $2.2m 1967 mustang?
you wont acknowledge any very pertinent point i make to this? just point finger?
would you like me to start pull example of vinyl record re-press, identical records, but original record sell for $5500+ and re-press identical vinyl sell $25?

that is all i share. thank you to everyone. i mute thread now!

I’ve been wondering why Summits are so expensive when the Free Solo is so cheap and basically just a better version.

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The value of the Peak actually did change the months following when the Peak 2 was released. People were selling their Peaks at a fraction of what they sold for prior to the release of the Peak 2. It was only when collectors started claiming the Peak 2 was nothing like the original Peak that the value started to inflate again.

Your arguments are not invalidated because you are getting defensive. They are invalidated because they are flawed to begin with. You are comparing apples to oranges here. A yoyo to a car? Be somewhat realistic.

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I enjoy the Peak 2. I like it because it is a more consistent representation of the OG Peak. I understand the collectibility of the OG Peaks due to limited runs and so many issues with different manufacturers, Anodizers, and hand painters of the OG Peaks. This makes the OG Peaks are very rare very different from each other within the same run. The Ti peak is the best representation of what the OG peak that is consistently the same in my limited experience with OG Peaks. This is what I have come to understand.
I really enjoy the play of the Peak 2. I really like the anodizing of that time.

Everyone have a great rest of the week.

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I didn’t see it mentioned but the og run of peaks had major vibe issues. Second run also had a lot of vibe issue as well. 3rd was pretty much the sweet spot.

Also I think the Ti peak is a great option if you want a premium peak that’s somehow cheaper than the original.

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imo, the comparison is apt. a couple of other examples were given, like vinyl records and guitars. books and watches also come to mind. there are countless other things that are like this, where a remake comes around and yet the original still holds its value. i think it’s part of human nature to find value in something beyond the value of just the item itself. i don’t think it’s an exclusivity thing or the fact that it’s worth so much that people seek it out, though that may attract a minority. in the instance of the peak, there’s the history behind it and the fact that it came out at a time where metal yoyos were scarce, which is crazy to think about now.

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Peak 2 is still pretty different to the original in terms of play imo

The most feelable difference is the original is way chunkier than the peak 2, while the peak 2 feels more hollow

I sold my peak 2 because I rarely felt like picking it up, possibly due to its lack of characteristics. I also wasn’t a big fan of the snow cone fade, yet there were a few Peak 2 colorways that I like. It’s a fine yoyo, but after trying a lot of “more interesting” organics like A/RT’s, the Peak 2 just feels MEH

One or two of my peaks honestly plays pretty hefty, which I don’t usually like (I used to tell people one of my 2nd run Peaks plays like :poop:). But I still pick them up more often because it feels fresh to taste something different once in a while

Side note: Recently got this 3rd run Peak and it has become one of my favorites: no hefty feeling at all but a lot of “float” instead, like how they used to describe the Peak, which I used to consider as false

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I think a good counter example would be the Canvas.

When the Diptych first came out, the market price of Canvases dropped a bit, just like what you mentioned about the Peak prices.

However, almost everyone said that the Diptych was very similar to the Canvas, many even considered it to be the better playing Canvas or an “updated version” of the Canvas, unlike how people considered Peak 2 to be very different to the original.

Howowevever, the value of Canvases has continued to inflate significantly in the past few years and didn’t even seem to fluctuate when the 7075 version Diptych, D7, came out. Interestingly, unlike the Peak 2, which stayed at retail value, the value of Diptyches has doubled or even tripled. But you can argue that it was perhaps because of the very limited quantities of Dips.

So I guess people claiming Peak 2 to be nothing like the original wasn’t the main reason of the Peak value inflation, though it may have contributed to it.

But anyways I think they are pretty different on string too lol

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