Why do many turn their nose up at fixed axle yoyos that are sub 50g?
I don’t know that I turn my nose up to them but I like the option of doing STM with a fixie, my skill set doesn’t let me do it with a lighter yoyo.
I think it’s just the fear of the unknown and some arbitrary “too light” cutoff.
The truth is the way most people are playing modern fixed axles, sub-50 is not problematic. They stall easy, regen easy, rotate readily on flip tricks. And I don’t notice a major drop in spin between a 45g yo-yo and a 55g at all. (And I’d MUCH rather play ~42g than ~62g lately.) I DO think there’s a drop off in control somewhere in that zone, although I find I can (mostly) compensate.
But I also get that for well over a decade almost no one was throwing that low weight (and a lot of players went as high as 70+) so they might imagine an issue where there isn’t one. If it’s well made, a fixie can go really light and still play super well.
The yo-yo I’ve been throwing almost exclusively since late summer has been 45g.
Interesting. I didn’t think that the weight would matter for that.
This is exactly what I think too.
I’ve been saying lately that 45g is the new 50g.
Nothing wrong with them. Stall / flips are nice on lighter yoyos.
@edhaponik Can you explain what you mean by a drop in control along the weight range?
I just started fixie playing with a Butterfly that’s around 45g. I’m really liking that, but my sample size of fixed axle weight ranges is at 1 right now. I’m interested what I’d think about a 55g or so yoyo…
At a certain point (especially in a stall) a really light yoyo will move with very little prompting. So a very light motion will cause a faster flip or turn than intended. But as I said it’s something you can adjust to. I used to throw mainly 57-62 range and now I throw more 45-52.
And everybody has their own taste like Vega mentioned. For some 50 feels too light. But I agree it’s not a line in the sand in terms of function.
This most recent vid is all w 45g.
I don’t know if this is a totally true statement, the TMBR This-A-Way That-A-Way was pretty popular this year and alot of the offerings were sub 50g. My standard Walnut is 39g.
I think it comes down to the actual throwing. Lighter fixies require more finesse all around, and not everyone is patient enough for throw soft. Last week I was throwing my Play Simply and that is one of my heaviest No Jives at 59 grams.
Its a different experience. Some days I can throw heavy, but I’ll feel it the next day in the elbow. Then I’ll throw light. I have also noticed throwing light hard can feel awkward and cause some elbow pain as well as its more of a snap of the joint. It really comes down to technique. @edhaponik says it in his YYE tutorials, “Throw for the Trick” and not all tricks need full gas, but some guys are just always full throttle.
Probably my favorite fixie is this walnut knack around 43g. I usually gravitate to 50-55g fixies but this one is my exception. I feel like it’s easier to make a good playing yoyo in the 50g range rather than making a light yoyo that people like.
I cut my teeth on a sliver bullet which is about 50g. I wouldn’t have a problem trying something lighter.