Underrated and Overrated throws

Man I was so considering a Freehand Pro, but the price tag repelled me.

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Much love for all the Emo bands, especially the early ones from Lawrence Kansas to Omaha Nebraska

The Anniversary is still one of my all time favorite records

Figured I would post a pocket trick near the end of vid

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I thought,

OA = Fixed Axle
1A = one yoyo with Bearing (responsive or unresponsive)
2A = two responsive yoyos
3A = two unresponsive
4A = Offstring one or two yoyos
5A = Counterweight

The point is there are some things slim lines and high walls are better at and there are some things competition style throws are better at. Just because a yoyo isnt well suited for horizontal doesn’t mean it’s a poorly performing yoyo. Regardless of how it plays, what matters is how you feel when you play it and just because you enjoy one doesn’t mean it’s universally good or bad.

To be honest I’m in the Eh camp that yoyo is whatever you want it to be and to try and judge them based off one thing or the other is pointless. For me, It’s about what is fun for the individual.

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I’m not in the camp of trying to define what yoyo is. We’re getting way too broad over “0A isn’t 1A”

I’ve just understood 0A as “modern responsive” :man_shrugging:

I was more trying to highlight the fact that y’all were bullying gingie. There’s no reason to attack people or their fashion choices bc someone disagrees with you. If you think someone is wrong and has a bad take, by all means say so. That is part of having a discussion on the forums. There is something about the personal attacks that crosses the line with me and I don’t like it here. It feels mean and unnecessary. Gingie never attacked anyone personally and idk why y’all would do that. All you need to say is slimlines are fire and that you disagree. It’s a bad look for the forums and Yoyo and gives me bad juju.

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Indeed, and here we are back at the whole subjective debate, because “performance” doesn’t mean the same thing to everyone. I doubt Takatsu Tsukasa and Takumi Hakamata are going to have the same definition of “performance.”

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Zero A’s given

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Thanks for looking out for me my man :handshake:

Regardless, my take was never that “slimline bad” just that they’re actively more difficult to do tricks on :skull:

It’s a slimmer, higher-walled yoyo (most the time). It’s harder to do tricks on. Like, by virtue of being narrow and high-walled.

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In my opinion the Yomega Fireball was highly overrated. I remember when it came out and all my buddies who never yoyo’d in their lives acted like Yomega invented the yoyo. I was like, “Meh. So you get like 5sec more sleep time. Learn to throw, dude.”

The real answer is a combination of the above opinions.

Original meaning of 0a was one handed looping tricks as stepping stone into 1A. 1A being any and all string tricks as bearings at one point didn’t exist yet…

Then things evolved. 0a isn’t fixed axle or at least not just fixed axle and 1A can be done on responsive and a fixie if your really good and old school.

0A really isn’t a catagory in a contest sense all elements listed above are also 1A elements however the regens, stalls, stop and go etc are all foundations of the 0a style of play which usually is a fixed axle but can be a modern responsive as well.

In the end it’s all labels that don’t really mean anything we are all playing yoyo with a single yoyo hitting a string. It’s all 1A by definition.

I like Ed’s take on 0a. his 0a manifesto it’s really just a state of yo. ed [...]: 0a

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klondike overrated until i get one. simple

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LMAO, I’m getting one on bst when I see it, wanna see what it’s about.

High wall organics really if I’m being honest are yoyo boomer bait. It’s not that the younger crowd can’t like them heck I assume many do but there is a big rush of yoyoers that stopped at some point between the mid 2000s and now that are rediscovering the hobby and high wall organics are our middle aged safe space… there are also allot of young players jumping on the scene it’s cool it’s like another boom let’s all get along.

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back then adding 5 seconds to a 10-15 second spin time was kinda a big deal for those who had only played fixie up to that point… but when bearings really hit shortly after, the transaxle became trash to me.

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I do stall kickflips(0A) with my YYR Draupnir (V shaped Competitive Unresponsive Bi-Metal) all the time. I just don’t feel the need to put that on TikTok of IG, I guess I’m just a Boomer who likes Emo records.

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Oh 100% with you there. I guess I should call it overrated in terms of hype, but definitely not for how it moved the goal posts. I will definitely give it credit for what it did for the industry.

Trick set plays a huge factor in the kind of yoyos ppl enjoy as well. Zoning or horizontals with slim lines is super super hard. I’ve enjoyed every yoyo I’ve had the pleasure of throwing so far and they all have things they’re better or worse at, and built to excel at different types of tricks for different play styles. Really just preference I guess.

Here is what I think is overrated so we can talk about something else—
All unresponsive plastic yoyos are overrated. Totally across the board. Can they be fun? Of course! They’re still overrated tho…I would much rather play with a mid to bad metal yoyo over any unresponsive plastic yoyo.

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Double trapeze stall is a…2a trick?

Not sure what you mean by double trapeze stall.