Also, while colter will probably disagree with me, whichever wholesaler yomega buys their bearings from is horrible. The eight balls are packed with grease. Even paper cleaned, cleaned with acetone/mineral spirits/green/insert.your.flavor, blown out with a compressor, and dry play treated the eight balls are still horrible. The cages are just really loose is my best venture as to why. Their mid range priced throws come with an unshielded ten ball which are pretty decent. They’re stock unresponsive and possibly even dry, or at least lightly lubed.