Are there any benefits to thin yoyos (in terms of width, not thickness of the metal or plastic). I mean what positive effects on performance does thinness have?
Well, they are easier to get throught tight spaces betwwen strings, and they are easier to carry around.
I really like the maneuverability.
Theyâre more pocket friendly.
If you are talking about yoyos like the Spyy Flying V or the TK stuff, I would say the advantage is you can play them tug responsive and it makes it fun for the classic string tricks. IMO they seem a little less stable, require better aim for hitting strings because of the narrow gap, and they make you look cooler when you play them.
Some of my favorites,
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They generally are more stable, as for horizontal play as for vertical play. This is why the yyf Horizon is pretty narrow.
Uh⌠Donât look nowđł>>
But the Horizon is not even close to being narrow.
Not sure what you were/are thinking as to what constitutes ânarrowâ, but 42.64mm is not narrow.
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Horizon is not narrow, and Iâve never heard of narrowness contributing to stability. I do not KNOW for sure, but Iâve always seen the opposite being claimed⌠width provides more stability (resistance to tilt) but makes the yoyo more prone to a wobbly throw as any errors in the throw (or machining for that matter) are amplified. But once spinning, they are more resistant to tilt, which is what the consensus definition of âstabilityâ for a gyroscope is.
The narrow yoyos Iâve tried (and there are not TOOooo many) are more prone to tilt. But thatâs anecdotal. Iâd rather know the physics of it.
kevinm, whereâs your Werrd Poo? 
Considering width to diameter ratio, Iâd say the Horizon is fairly thin.
Never tried one, I heard Australian yoyos spin backwards, that could be hard to get used to.
I didnât know those were slim, I will have to keep my eyes open for one on the bst.
And you are more accurate to mention tilt v stability, that was what I was thinking but I didnât say it right, thin yoyos do not react well to a wobbly throw.
I considered the diameter to width ratio. And âIâ considered that ratio to be of no relevant application in this instance.
The image that Kevinâs shared has several yoyos: SBâs, a V, a dif, a Custom, a Cold Fusion(non GT), etcâŚ
Obviously a group of yoyos that would be considered âmore pocket friendlyâ. The diameters of most of the yoyos in kevinmsâ pic are mid fifties range. But itâs not the diameter that makes them more pocketable; itâs the width.
I understand the point of the OP was not what fits in your pocket but regardlessâŚ
A Yoyo closer to 43mm wide; I would not identify as being âthinâ simply because it is 58.something in diameter.
42.64mm wide is not thin.
Stuff one in your pocket and tell me the diameter makes the width any less of a lump in your pocket, lolđł.
I didnât notice anybody mention that the diameter/width ratio was a rationale to identify actual width perception.
PS⌠In your original post; you asked about how thinness might contribute to stability⌠But you never mentioned âthinness based on ratio to diameterâ.
I guess if you would have been more specific, that responses could/would/should be more specific and possibly more accurate. Answers can only be deduced on input information.
âŚSo, you could also assert that if two people weighted 500 pounds but one was 6 feet tall and the other was 5 feet tall; that the taller person would not really look as Wide?
But if you gave them both a ride down the street in your Volkswagon, you would quickly notice that both of them would make your car seem much smallerđ¤ And their heights(sub/diameter) would be of little consequence.
PS2⌠If you are doing tricks that are much easier to pull off with thinner yoyos; the width of a Horizon is not going to be any âlessâ just because the diameter is on the higher side.
Just sayin
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Thinner yoyos tilts easier, good for learning.
Less likely to have both throw vibe and actual vibe, because the weight is not put too wide there is less momentum that tries to spin it off axis, easier to design and machine.
Regens more cleanly with less vibe.
Slips through the string, there are times when a yoyo is too wide it hits too many strings at a time, while you just wanna hit one.
Pocket friendly.
Flips easier, better loops.
When you consider adding more rim weight alone with less regard on stability, for example for long sleeper yoyos, thinner is better at certain degree. Because thinner yoyo can have shorter âbridgeâ connecting the rim to the hub, you can then transfer that weight more on the rim.
Looks more like actual âyo-yoâ most people had in mind.
They made you look awesome if you hit intricate string tricks with it, AND ends with flyaway dismount.
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Brandon Vu just posted a video and compared the Horizon to the Shutter and noted that the horizon is narrower. He theorized that the comparative narrowness of the horizon may help contribute to itâs stability.
Seems like what is happening here is that some of us have a different reference point for ânarrowâ.
I learned to throw with fixed axle stuff and I like to carry a standard no-jive that has a string gap narrower than two new pennies, so when I play a yoyo like a horizon, it seems like the gap is wide enough to drive a Buick through.
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People will naturally look at things differently. That being said, maybe the horizon is thin relative to the shutter, but it would not be categorized thin by its lonesome. Sure, the Yeti is narrower than a 4a throw, but itâs by no means a narrow yoyo. Many things can be characterized as something theyâre not when compared relatively to something else.
Brandon Vu is a wonderful asset to the community, but my understanding is that heâs wrong if he thinks narrowness contributes to stability (resistance to tilt). Rizki summed it up nicely.
It seemed backwards to me.
Maybe I miss quoted him.
Yeah, from my understanding of the basic physics behind it, the wider the yoyo the more it should resist tilt. Wider yoyos will also (usually) have less contact between the string and the walls of the yoyo so they are much less likely to tilt in a trick.
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You could use a high speed camera and a black and white checkered pattern ala Mythbusters.
Why would you quote me when comparative narrowness/thinness has little to do with ânarrow or thinâ?
42+mm wide may not be technically as wiiiide as Yoyos it may be âcompared toâ.
But a 42+mm yoyo would/should/could not be considered ânarrow or thinâ in a real World.
If you want to attempt narrow-er based on comparison, then just go back to All the Yoyos in kevinmâs imageđł
The Horizon could easily be identified as not narrow compared to every yoyo in that image, lol.
But then again; Iâm not basing my opinion on comparing the Horizon to a specific yoyo.
By simply going with generally accepted (current and recent history Yoyo)measurement parameters; 42.64mm Yoyos are not narrow.
Thin and thinner are two very different things.
Interchanging the words to justify you view, holds as much water as a bucket full of holes.
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