Thin Yoyos

[Amdroid]

It may seem counter-intuitive, but I’m pretty sure compared to a narrower weight placement, a wider weight placement on a yoyo will increase a yoyo’s ability to tilt, and therefore make it less stable.

[GregP]

@Amdroid

It may seem counter-intuitive, but I’m pretty sure compared to a narrower weight placement, a wider weight placement on a yoyo will increase a yoyo’s ability to tilt, and therefore make it less stable.

It seems counter-intuitive because it is not correct. A wider weight placement will increase a yoyo’s resistance to tilting.

[kevinm]

Hey i don’t pretend to understand anything i do with a yoyo, i just know from years of playing with them that, for example, many slimline yoyos are hard to control in a gyroscopic flop. this could have to do with string touching high walls and all kinds of other stuff, but it seems to my monkey brain like it is less stable.

[Morgoroth]

@yoyodoc

Why would you quote me when comparative narrowness/thinness has little to do with ‘narrow or thin’?

42+mm wide may not be technically as wiiiide as Yoyos it may be ‘compared to’.

But a 42+mm yoyo would/should/could not be considered ‘narrow or thin’ in a real World.

If you want to attempt narrow-er based on comparison, then just go back to All the Yoyos in kevinm’s image😳

The Horizon could easily be identified as not narrow compared to every yoyo in that image, lol.

But then again; I’m not basing my opinion on comparing the Horizon to a specific yoyo.

By simply going with generally accepted (current and recent history Yoyo)measurement parameters; 42.64mm Yoyos are not narrow.

Thin and thinner are two very different things.

Interchanging the words to justify you view, holds as much water as a bucket full of holes.

Don’t get cranky with me, I agree with you.

I was just pointing out the possible origin of the idea that the horizon is narrow.

[Mr.ARK93]

On the topic of thin yo-yos, I read somewhere that the old Yomega Wing Force yo-yo was pretty darned narrow for a metal yo-yo, especially of its era.

[yoyodoc]

@Morgoroth

Don’t get cranky with me, I agree with you.

I was just pointing out the possible origin of the idea that the horizon is narrow.

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Getting ‘cranky’?

So my connecting a series of factual statements constitutes a ‘cranky disposition’?

Interesting🤔

[Amdroid]

@GregP

It seems counter-intuitive because it is not correct. A wider weight placement will increase a yoyo’s resistance to tilting.

Hey Gregp! What you’re saying makes a lot of sense to me. I just heard the opposite thing from some people who know what they’re talking about over on the yoyo designers Facebook page. I honestly have no idea what I’m talking about, and maybe I read this wrong, (if I did, feel free to let me know) but I’ll stick a little quote here from Kyo:

Yoyos have two moments, one around the axle axis, one across it.

High moment around the axle increases spin.

High moment across it increases its ability to tilt.

So having a very wide weight placement in relation to a smaller diameter gives it leverage to tilt, vibe, wobble, etc.

In simplest terms, diameter is your spin, width is your stability.

[Lex]

I’m assuming by moment Kyo is talking about moment of inertia. Moment of inertia is an object’s resistance to change in angular velocity. So if a yoyo has a high moment of inertia across the axle, it will have a high resistance to changing the angular velocity. So, this means that a wide yoyo will be less likely to tilt than a thin yoyo. It does mean however that if a wide yoyo starts to tilt that it is harder to correct than with a thin yoyo.