Spin top learning curve (it’s not a curve)

Since this is about tops being a learning curve, there seems to be no end to the curve. There’s no end to learning. Even the most subtle things. For example, i trained myself subconsciously to rip my boomerangs hard. But now…… i find myself altering the speed based on what I’m doing! I’m working on bastion (not sure of spelling as of this moment) and found half of my normal boomerang is perfect

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From the dozen or so throws I got in tonight, and the scooping it up with the string and stuff, I’m truely in awe at what y’all are capable of

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I nailed boomerang a lot last night but I also after nailing boomerang completely butchered my toss as if I’d never thrown a top before.

I would say it’s a lot more like a square wave than a curve.

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That’s great @TryCatchThrow that you are hitting boomerang. When your throw goes crazy or blows up, it is almost always your wrap. What usually happens is the coil of wraps just slides off the top instead of unwinding and spinning the top. Sometimes the string wrap will also work most of the way then snag, that’s always exciting.
Getting the throw down is huge, how hard you throw and how well you wind the top is all fine tuning after that. If you stick with it you will start to see the difference in strings, buttons, the various top sizes. It’s kind of like yo-yos, some tops seem to make certain tricks easier or harder.
Good job with boomerang though. Now merry-go-round and crazy eights!

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That’s how it starts, keep at it. Boomerang really opens up the trick world though, get that down and it starts to get interesting.
The string you got with the Short Circuit looks like good quality stuff, the button that comes with the YYF tops is just way too heavy though. I have no patience for struggling with a button that seems more like a counter weight. You may find it easier if you change that up for something smaller and lighter, I use guitar picks on most of my small tops like that.

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Where did you find an all black one with a black tip??

Skill addicts premium reward, was 1500 pills and around 8.75 to ship it from Czech Republic to east coast US

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I think one of the reasons it is difficult or maybe confusing to really get started with spin tops is because they are not exactly standardized. It took me a long time experimenting with different sized tops, and lots of different strings, just to get down some pretty basic skills. Part of that is because I am not around other top throwers, part of it is cuz I started 40 some years after I should have. At any rate, this is a photo of some of the tops that helped me learn, to show the size and weight range.

The YYF and the Jumbo Cobra are 53g
Star is 56g
S8 Augusta 92g
Dazzling Dave 3” is 119g
Sweetle 151g
Neff wood top 179g
S8 Sara 212g

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I exclusively have Short Circuits and a Duncan Imperial.

I’ve been committed to playing a little each day for three days now and still get the yips every single day several times a day. I’ve landed a few boomerangs but I’m just as likely to send it off sideways and away.

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Yeah that’s the ballpark I’m going to be working within for a while as well, I think

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Okay @SlowThrow and @TryCatchThrow , the good news is that the YYF is sufficient to start your addiction. You don’t really need to jump down the rabbit hole before you get down boomerang, m-g-r, crazy eights, crazy mouse, wire walker, all those basic tricks. The YYF works great for all that stuff. The Short Circuit is really a very capable top and you can do a ton of stuff with it, but it isn’t necessarily the easiest top for learning advanced stuff on because it is small and light weight so it precesses fairly fast.

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But I can’t afford another rabbit hole!

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Perhaps. But can you really afford to go through life not being able to juggle, throw yo-yos and Boomerang?!

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I’m going to glaze up the short circuit also. You can really do it all with these things. I think if people start with a short circuit and an Elektrik, you just can’t go wrong.

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Wrap the string tighter. If it helps , your string could be too thin, too long or worn / stretched. (Possibly)

If it doesn’t help, it’s your technique. Either way, don’t throw it down hard. Throw it down only as hard as you would throw it on to the ground. Let the pull back control your height and spin and stuff. You don’t need a fast spin, you need a smooth throw.

Once you can boomerang it with your eyes closed, then add power.

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Is it fixed tip February also?? Here’s a custom from Ed Davidson. I had him make me two of these. Plain, nothing too pretty, but highly functional. I really love Ed’s wooden trompos. I just ordered another woodie. 4” diameter, 4.5” tall. Here’s the 2.5” practice player.

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Every month is fixed tip February.

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So far I find it exceeds my skill level Lolol, I’m very happy with mine! I’m wondering if I swap in a greased out bearing on the spare tip if it’ll act somewhat like a fixed tip? Is this just not advised?

Also, I watched how to be a player part 2 and my mind was re-blown lol

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Ill advised. A slow bearing actually kills the spin completely. It’s a really weird thing that happens. But one or the other is great to learn. There’s really cool tricks to learn with either

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