PopCast #26: The Ti-Vayder Awakens

This is an internet-only release I’m afraid, no plans to do any physical release stuff.

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Honestly, I think doing a physical release would make you reallyyyy known in the yoyo world.

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Agreed, it will also allow collectors to keep their originals mint and now have a “print” version to actually play with and enjoy - the way it was meant to be enjoyed in the first place.

Also another analogy: An original Shelby Cobra vs. a ‘kit car’ remake. Even if they look and perform the same way, people also value rareness and vintage/original-ness.

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Can someone that is Facebook savvy confirm this?

Because like I said if it’s true they’ve already taken a hit.

Curious to hear @mrciurleo thoughts on this.

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If that’s true then maybe it was already artificially inflated beyond its true worth.

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I’m just not sure how to respond to that. I don’t understand where that logic comes from.

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I think he’s saying the Walkers not worth $350

But like, it’s worth as much as someone’s willing to pay so :man_shrugging:

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No, I interpreted him saying that $350 was selling it at a loss. But that’s already twice as much as it was originally priced for - I believe Heath said in the other thread that the original sold for $180.

But I agree with this:

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And this:

The ‘true’ value of the original should be what collectors are willing to pay for them. They are the ones that truly value the yoyo for its history and legacy.

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One TiWalker sale is not enough to establish a trend.

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No, they were $200. Check again.

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Either way, how many used yoyos sell for more than their original MSRP?

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A few dozen

Actually there’s a lot

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Detective Comics #27 sold originally for 10 cents. So as long as you sell it for more than 10 cents you did ok? With all due respect I don’t think you understand the collectible market.

A single sale of a TiWalker for $300 or $350 most certainly denotes a drop in value. Not many get sold so each sale reflects the market.

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Yeah but I think it’s far too early to draw a conclusion based on one data point. This will take years to play out.

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How does the old saying go? “One is merely an interesting data point. Two is a coincidence. Three is a pattern. More than three is a trend.” I’d say that applies even in a population as small as 89.

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This is true, I don’t because I’m not a collector. Example: I just bought a beautifully restored 1974 John Deere lawn tractor to actually use for cutting my lawn. In part, it was all I could afford, but also I just think its fun to drive. Most people would keep them as collectors items in their garage, but I like to use it for what it was built for. Not that there is anything wrong with being a collector. I certainly like to appreciate history and design. I am just of a different mind set.

In conclusion, I support what @codinghorror is doing and I appreciate him taking on this task for the yoyo community.

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Also! In case anyone missed it, because it was kinda at the end of the video, we are giving away one grey Ti-Vayder to a random docpop Patreon supporter.

So sign up on docpop’s Patreon if you want a chance to win that!

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I agree that’s a drop in value, especially considering one sold for $600 or $700 earlier this year. One did indeed sell on Facebook for $300 recently, but it was a custom ano which unless done by Jason Wong in the case of the TiWalker, decreases the value (in my opinion at least).

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Just finished watching the episode, awesome stuff @codinghorror and @DocPop.

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