No more expensive yoyos for me

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So I bought the MK1 ring bearer and I also bought the edition forma one was $110 and the other one was $45 and I have to be honest that I dont feel a difference in how they throw. I’ve been practicing with both and honestly I thought the higher the price the better the yo-yo and I had it in my head that you had to spend more to get better and that’s just not what I’m finding.

I have two more yo-yos coming which is the knotcreators S2 and the motionyoyo perpendicular which I paid $50 each for both so I’m definitely looking forward to the undersized to try those out.

But I think from now on I’m no longer going to pay $100 plus on yo-yos anymore. I do like the one ring but I’ll be honest with you. I do regret paying that price

People did tell me but I did not listen

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One of my best playing Titanium throws was like $100 on Amazon. There are certainly gems lying around just waiting to be found. The question is; how many crummy $50 throws will it take to find one?

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Yoyos are a skill-based sport. The equipment matters less than skill in the grand scheme of things, most modern yoyos play same enough. More expensive does not equal better, however they have more that you may want about them whether that be aesthetic or finish or material or even stricter QC. Whatever motivates you most is what is the best yoyo. You’ll only see major changes when playing when you start playing around with their width

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tbf they are in fact different. i think what happened was you attributed the price difference to a difference in capability but that’s not where the difference lies. bi materials will always cost more because there is additional material involved, sometimes ti, and it requires more steps and precision in its construction. you will also see differences in price due to more complex ano jobs as they require more time and skill

all this is to say there are good reasons for the price differences, but they are quite capable of the same tricks. this is one reason ppl always say buy what you like. the implication being they all do the same stuff. practice and skill will always trump equipment

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I have a couple of $150 yoyofriends bimetal’s and a couple $150 W1ld bimetal’s that play way better than my $50 knotcreators S2 but I won’t take them to our club meets where we throw over gravel. That’s where my s2 shines

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It’s a little known fact that practice and skills far out weigh the price factor in yoyoing. :wink:

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I changed my topic because I caught my mistake. Yes they both are very different what I meant is they both throw the same imo. I can’t tell the difference.

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I think this is a little overstated. If your only throw isn’t suited to your needs, then that’s going to make practicing the tricks you want to do into torture. That has very little to do with price or skill. And in some cases if you don’t have the right kind of throw then some tricks are simply not possible. Once you have a decent yoyo that’s designed for your category of play (e.g. 1A, 2A, etc.), then every other yoyo is just a side-grade, not an upgrade.

In other words, you cannot ‘upgrade’ your spectacles by changing what kind of lenses are in them.

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What tricks have you done on them, out of curiosity?

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Pretty sure that is just an old wives tale.

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Expensive string plus expensive yoyo equals instant yoyo mastery

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I think Forma is an exceptional yo-yo in general, at the original price and especially at the closeout price.

I don’t have a Ring Bearer, but on top of the higher production cost, there was getting approval for the LOTR tie-in and a lot of work on the package design. The latter two add value to the right customer in ways that are unrelated to performance.

Performance wise, only you can tell what matters and whether that can be fulfilled by a $45 yo-yo. But there are many other reasons to pick up or just enjoy owning a yo-yo. Even ones that you are certain will not out-perform something you already have, but will still be amusing or inspiring in their own way.

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Captain Obvious sez, “As usual, texts do not adequately portray the nuances or sarcasms involved.” :upside_down_face:

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I find the better I get at playing, and the more tricks and elements I learn…the more difference I can tell between how a yoyo plays.

When I first started, virtually the only real difference was “spin long, spin less long”.

Then added to that at some point came “tilts fast, tilts less fast”

I’ve since then added a whole host of qualifiers and descriptors about how I feel a yoyo moves, how it responds to certain tricks, how it responds to binds and so on.

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I have over 1500 yo-yos now. I have Never, ever(like in never-ever-never) spent a single minute, trying to convince myself, that a higher performance/and/or/more expensive yo-yo would have any effect on increasing my skill level.

Some of my more expensive yo-yos were simply purchased because I wanted to try them and ‘what they cost, is the only way to try them’, if you don’t know anybody that has one, lol.

If…. You don’t buy it, you can’t try it.

A person only needs several good yo-yos to cover whatever style they throw. Some good string, a few extra bearings and some misc. stuff…. And the right attitude.

I think it’s kinda crazy when I hear somebody new wants to buy a Titanium yo-yo for several hundred dollars, when they would be better off buying several yo-yos instead.

Or, when somebody buys an Expensive yo-yo……and then decides they are afraid to throw it because they may damage it. All of a sudden you don’t have a yo-yo… you have an expensive headache.

Nothing is more of a Pain, than buying a yo-yo for over a hundred bucks and then living in Fear of damaging it.

There are so many excellent yo-yos available for under $100 now it’s Amazing.

The general consensus is than playing with yo-yos is supposed to be fun.

Try to avoid anything that is going to Suck the fun out of yo-yoing.

Getting a few yo-yos and actually throwing them around learning tricks and not living in fear of getting a ding, totally beats the heck out of trying to buy yourself into some make-believe state of Nirvana… And then just feeling miserable because you got over your head and then don’t even wanna play.

Also recognize that different yo-yos… every one of them offers a different adventure. So if a guy decides to buy one $400 titanium yo-yo… Then he’s limited himself to one adventure. It might be a very good adventure. But it would be kind of like going to Disneyland and going on the same ride all the time. It would be fun, but that’s about it.

… it basically to a greater extent and lesser, boils down to attitude

If you have the right attitude and a positive outlook and just a few good yo-yos and maybe some Friends to throw with, then life is good

If you spend too much on one throw and find out pretty quick, it’s not a magical trick generating machine… Then that affects your attitude. Your attitude affects your positivity. Your diminishing positivity starts making you not like yo-yo‘s too much. Once you turn sour on yo-yo’s, you start hating life. Once you start hating life, you probably end up turning to eating food something like maybe a double cheeseburger and an order of fries and a Mexican Coke with cane sugar. And the thought of yo-yo’s will not even cross your mind.

And now that I’ve said that come to think of it… I think I’ll go get a double cheeseburger and an order of fries and a Mexican Coke.

Never forget one of the most important things in life. Whatever hobby you have, eventually, you’ll probably get tired of it. But you’ll always be hungry. And if you spend too much on yo-yo’s, you’ll stay hungry.

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Yeah Same here big collection and much of it is I like it not it will do anything to make me better. I like YoYo’s I like the hobby and I enjoy design and feeling/seeing those designs in person. The subtle differences some of which are probably lost on me.

You could go to your local maker space and spend nothing but 10 bucks in hardware and materials and the gas to go there and 3d print a yoyo that performs the same tricks as any other. Will it spin as long or be smooth probably not but it’ll do most of your trick selection easy enough if the design and settings are decent. (Most maker spaces have good enough printers and materials)

Often more money gets into that diminishing returns realm for performance but there are plenty of other reasons I’ve come up with to spend a dumb amount of money on sillier things

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There is definitely a huge difference if you pick well, but there is frankly no real correlation between the price of the yoyo and the quality.

Price varies on different factors. The amount of prototypes is a huge one, sometimes the size of the team and the run, the cost of materials, the location it is manufactured for shipping (tariffs too), any additional shipping, offset cost of bgrades in the runs etc.

So in the end what would be a yoyo worth $50 may cost $100 just because of x factors. Meanwhile an experienced yoyo maker with more resources for a bigger and less prototype runs may make essentially the same yoyo for $60 instead. At no point would that $100 yoyo outperform the other in a scenario like that.

All that to say, you need to learn which kind of yoyos you like bexause a high end yoyo that hits your sweet spot is 10x better than a junk yoyo. Ive done the opposite of you, I only like to buy medium-high end yoyos now lol

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Most of the yo-yo’s I own are for aesthetics. Far less to try a different profile, weight, or width.

But I do find the yo-yo I go to most is the Luftverk SE Daytona. It feels unbreakable, so I don’t worry about it living in a pocket or bag. Even a solid hit to concrete only left a small knick.

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Well after spending near 500usd for a turning point naja I can confirm it didn’t come with the tricks pre-installed :upside_down_face:

On a serious note, finding the profile shape you can really enjoy is the factor behind spending more. For me personally my favorite profile shape is step-straight or step-curve so I feel more obligated to spend more if they fit the profile because I already know its going to be my style.

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forma is an exceptional yoyo and for $50 it’s absurdly good performance to value

ringbearer is a good yoyo whose primary draw is the collector factor, not performance

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