Hi, I just bought this Iceberg Yoyo and I want to know if this considers as vibing. Is it bad enough that I should ask costumer support?video of it
You stop the video right after you smoothed it out lol we can’t tell from that, but it was smooth after you touched it so no it’s just from your throw right now
What he said ^^
If the yo-yo goes smooth after u put ur finger to it and the vibe goes away that is a pretty good indicator that the vibe is coming from ur throw.
This is why I refer to it as “throw vibe” instead of fingernail vibe.
One thing that’s confusing to some is they wonder why would u he getting “throw vibe” on this yo-yo but not on every yoyo, especially at the same rate. Like maybe one out of every five throws it comes out smooth.
Anyway I don’t have an exact answer to this but I suspect it is due to some combination of manufacturing and yo-yo design.
For example maybe this particular yoyo was manufactured to a slightly different tolerance, talking microscopic difference but enough so that you’re throw has to be super on point to get a smooth throw.
Same for yoyo design, some designs are just way more sensitive to throw vibe, super wide but have heavy as rims, or an extreme shape can cause throw vibe. Where like I said before ur throw has to be super on point if u want it to come smooth.
Another thing that can cause this is actually the bearing. If u have other bearing try swapping them out and sometimes a different bearing can solve the entire issue. There’s probably a lot more to it but this is what my experience has shown me to be true .
The YYJ Xconvict required a good throw or it would wobble.
Also worth noting that vibe has to be like pretty extreme to actually affect your ability to do a trick. I say this because I’m very new and got hung up on vibe for a bit, but if it were bad enough to be a concern, it’d be obvious enough that you wouldn’t have to ask
This isn’t the whole story or a full explanation I should say, but this will get you going and getting your mind moving in the right direction
Over the last few decades as the yo-yo manufactures have evolved and improve their techniques in weight distribution, there have been a few slight but workable negatives that have resulted from this.
One of the drawbacks, not unusual in hybrid, yo-yos, is the fact that the weight distribution formulas have a tendency to teeter right on the edge of over balance from too much rim weight. Think of it as somebody getting there go kart and putting a Harley Davidson motorcycle engine in it. If you can relate to that, you would understand very logically that you would have to hit the throttle slowly and steadily to keep the engine from throwing you out of the go kart. Abstract an Analogy, I know, but the point being simple>> Too much power at the point of activation. But if you start slow and steady, you’ll be the only guy in your neighborhood rolling down the street in a go kart with a Harley Davidson engine in it
Now we come to the yo-yo. Obviously if you’re fairly new and don’t have a good throw down or a powerful throw down that can create various situations in itself. But if you have a good throw down and you have a strong throw down and you want your yo-yo to spin for a long time after you throw it down… You have a Tendency to throw the yo-yo down very hard. Throwing straight and hard can be a good thing and it desirable ability with one caveat.
using your yo-yo as an example… The iceberg. A very excellent design by dave from Germany. A beautifully made and well engineered yo-yo with some serious weight distribution towards the rims. The advantages of that are very simple for anybody that has an iceberg already and has been throwing it for a while. It’s a very powerful long, spinning functional yo-yo… but since it does have borderline weight at the rims, A powerful throw and/or a throw that’s not quite straight down will result in a temporary instability because of that rim weight. It’s not just the iceberg that has this problem potentially. Several hybrid yo-yos have similar crazy rim weight to bodyweight ratios. The better player is the less they even think of it because they’ve learned how to control it, if you have a Powerful throw, on the throw down you stroke it down and just don’t hold it down. You have to be an integral part of facilitating the stability of a yo-yo.
Realize something to wrap your head around. When you throw a yo-yo, you are you and yo-yo obviously is the yo-yo. But when you’re throwing that yo-yo and doing combos and just doing maybe single tricks that exhibit a certain level of complexity, you and the yo-yo need to be one. What I mean by that is that the yo-yo is not gonna do anything by itself and if your prints around like a fairy without a yo-yo on the end of your hand, well that’s another story. But when you team up with the yo-yo to crunch out some combos , you have to be participating in the equation. Hopefully you have the potential skills and determination to pull off some tricks. There’s no doubt that the iceberg has the power and the potential to help you achieve those ends. But the yo-yo can do nothing if you’re not willing to control it.
One of the easiest ways to distinguish if a person is not very well-versed in yo-yo play is that they seem to be overly concerned and/or potentially preoccupied with how vibe in a yo-yo is ruining their party and their life will never be the same.
When you throw down an iceberg, and maybe pinched the string 8 inches from the yo-yo and hold it up around chest eye level and it’s VibinG… ok> If you can get the edge of your index finger and through the yo-yo up so that it’s not Vibing, Then it’s not the yo-yo.
Yo, has an inherent vibe that can’t be corrected, no amount of finger touching or coaxing is going to keep that yo-yo from Vibing.
So you throw the yo-yo down, hold it up, touch it with the edge of your finger it trues up and spins like A cloud, then the explanation is simple>
You either throw too hard and not very straight…. Or, just throw funny, period.
Here are some good news that often happens so automatically that people don’t even think about the vibe in a rim heavy hybrid yo-yo. Very simple. You throw break away… Side mount so to speak you go right into tricks. The process of throwing the yo-yo and going right into a combo or a trick will almost always…… almost always Be a substitute for the side of your finger. That’s right, just going into tricks, as the string touches the yo-yo the string will be the substitute for your finger and the vibe will true up as you’re moving through your tricks.
Obviously, if you don’t know, many tricks and you just wanna throw the yo-yo down and it starts Vibing and You just wanna focus on that Because some genius told you that vibing yo-yo Can cause hysterical, screaming, and instant death, well then you have more than a yo-yo that shakes a little funny…
Most people that actually buy yo-yos to play and have fun with, are so busy, throwing the yo-yos and learning tricks are doing tricks that they already know seldom if ever think about initial throwdown vibe because it goes away as they move through their first trick, it’s a self correcting thing if you actually play the yo-yo instead of just standing there and watching it and shaking your head because you spent your whole life savings on a stupid yo-yo.
And to a certain extent, it’s a matter of perspective, and/or understanding things that shake whether temporarily and/or and/or permanently.
If you buy a brand new Porsche for 80,000 bucks that sucker better have vertical lift and you can’t even hear it if your ears are stuck in the exhaust pipes. And you expect that and you appreciate that and you paid for that.
On the other hand, if you buy a brand new mustang Shelby cobra with about 600 hp of ground pounding craziness, if that thing was completely silent, you certainly feel there was something wrong with it. And I haven’t checked the prices on Shelby cobras lately, But if you could get one for 80 grand, I’d certainly jump on it directly from the diving board five stories high.
If a yo-yo cannot be true by your finger or by the process of moving through tricks and shake so much that it actually affects your mind or your performance of tricks then that’s a bad vibe. I’m not saying it makes yo-yo useless but it’s no fun. We can all agree in that.
Yo-yo vibes so bad you feel like your teeth are coming loose and at first you think it’s you but you hand it to a couple friends and noticed that they have the same results then that’s a yo-yo that sucks.
If you throw a yo-yo down and it has a wobble going… By wobble I mean what some guys called ghosting. That’s where the yo-yo when you hold it up to high-level it actually looks like some kind of weird soundwave thing. It moves this way and it moves that way, and you feel like you’re drunk looking at it. That’s a super sucky, yo-yo and ain’t no way short of an actual miracle with a magic wand. . That’s a super sucky yo-yo and ain’t no way short of actual miracle with a magic wand you’re gonna correct that you are going to correct that.
Bottom line to the OP… I’m not trying to play with your head on this. If you’re new to yo-yos, I see nothing wrong with your concern that your yo-yo vibes. People make a lot bigger deal on a vibe in a yo-yo that is necessary. There seems to be a plague that has gone around the planet and convinced a certain number of people that if your yo-yo vibes for whatever reason it’s a manufacturing defect and 100% loss of your money and you’ll die screaming and penniless.
The iceberg is an excellent yo-yo. I would say without reservation that it is not a beginners yo-yo. It was designed by a world-class player. A multi titled winner a guy that’s been designing yo-yos for years. And even though rank beginner can buy an iceberg yo-yo, Dave designer yo-yo for high-performance play. High-performance play by definition usually means that the high-performance play is most likely performed by a high-performance player that can bring out the potential of the yo-yo. And the players at that level have no problem controlling that weight distribution. And the players that play at that level will never be heard if they live to be 3000 years old, that yo-yo might have a little vibe to it. Because they’re too busy on stage doing backflips and having people in the first five rows screaming until their eyes bleed at the amazing tricks that they’re doing with their iceberg yo-yo
Thanks for posting that video… It shows that there’s nothing wrong with your yo-yo except that maybe it was over designed a little bit as far as weight distribution to make it more powerful. Congratulations on making an excellent choice.
PS… for those that may have been adventurous enough to read this entire post and once again suggest the old yo-yo doctor spent years typing it. I got some bad news for you. I did talk to text on this entire post and I probably did it in less than five minutes because I speak as I think. The only problem is that because I speak rather quickly, the program seems to have trouble understanding whether English is my primary language? Because of this there may be a few sentences in all the above dialogue that would make you believe that English is not my first language. I’m going to my granddaughters graduation right now and just don’t have the time to slowly course over my long-winded post to see what doesn’t sound quite right or which sentences Would not diagram properly. So sorry about any typos or weird words that the program decided to put in for me…
There it is. That’s the stuff, right there! So good. Never change, Doc!
Exactly! Perfect example thank you
thank you for answering