General Yoyo Thoughts

I doubt it, most matador/hubstack tricks don’t score very well.

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They’ve always been a gimmick.

Well folks, I think it’s official.

smileypants… :neutral_face:

smileypants707 might actually prefer 100% polyester strings. :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

They just feel so… right? Fats, normies and slims — I can pretty much make them do whatever I need them to do.

I know, hell may have frozen over.

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@SmileyPolyesterPants707

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I remember when you first said how much you disliked them because they felt so lifeless and I felt kind of shocked. Glad you dig 'em now!

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Careful he may suddenly become smileyleisuresuit

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Same. I remember that too. Glad you finally see the light @smileypants707

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My attitude towards strings got confounded once I got my package of Markmont strings. They just have this feel of quality that surpasses any other string ive used, but on the other hand it doesn’t have me hating my other strings. I appreciate the silkiness of Airetics, and the new poly/nylon blends from Zipline are still as impressive as ever, but there is just this feeling that the Markmonts, while almost as rough as rope, are still more premium. Yet I feel like they are almost primal; they are coarse, have very little bounce, and have no sense of refinement, but the way they play is just organic and natural, like any string should play (im referencing both the Cumulus Foam and the Blue Eyed White Dragon formulas btw). I think I need to try all of the Markmont strings, because truly the man behind these blends knows what he is doing on a level that I have yet to experience in a string.

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So, you know how today’s yoyo axles have one end tapped so that you can use a bearing removal tool to unscrew it from whichever half it ends up stuck in after taking a yoyo apart? Well, why don’t they tap both ends?

It is supremely frustrating to have the axle stuck such that the tapped end is buried in the yoyo and you have to resort to pliers to get it out, potentially damaging the axle threads. It would be a trivial matter to tap both ends during manufacture, and it is such a painfully obvious thing to do (symmetry is a Good Thing when it comes to yoyos, after all), that I’m actually kind of shocked it isn’t already being done.

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That is a very good question.

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It’s because these are off the shelf fasteners. It’s just a hollow hex “Allen” head set screw. Having both ends have the drive hole would be detrimental to the intended function of the fastener :frowning:

It would be sweet if someone did make dedicated yoyo axles though! I’ve definitely been in exactly the situation you described.

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Clearly I don’t understand the intended function of the fastener if having both ends tapped completely undermines said function. :astonished:

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It wouldn’t be detrimental to its function as a yoyo axle.

I’m guessing the reason why they don’t make yoyo axles like this is because there are factories in China making these screws in the squillions. To change even a small thing like that would mean they would need to change their production just to make a tiny batch to satisfy the yoyo community. It would be very costly.

Plus, generally throwers probably don’t care all that much about it.

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Right. But I’m trying to imagine how tapping both ends would be detrimental to its non-yoyo function (cuz I guess I don’t know what that function is).

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I think Glen hit the nail on the head. A small change to production would probably result in a big change to cost for yoyo companies. But, that is speculation on my part as I’ve never designed and had a yoyo produced.

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They are generally used to secure parts in place and to remove any play between parts. There are lots in my drill press and lathe (larger size though). Having both ends tapped probably wouldn’t ruin this function, but I don’t really know.

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And it makes me curious why, in their other fastening use cases, having one end tapped is useful, but not both ends.

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Jonathan Sittanggang (@jonathanstggg)

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Imagine you could have a wood screw that could be screwed in from either end. There’s no use that I know of or can think of that this would help. These set screws are essentially the same thing. Adding a hex hole at the other end would probably seem pointless to the maker. Extra cost with little to no reward.

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Yeah, custom fasteners are expensive. 4x0.7 flat tip stainless set screws are $7 for a bag of 50 on McMaster-Carr. Compare that to the Loop 2020 axles, which I think are real deal custom made yoyo axles, that go for $4 apiece here on YYE.

There’s lot’s of different tip shapes!


It just depends on what you want the fastener to do. I’d wager you’re right that having both ends broached on a cup tip wouldn’t change a thing. (Except for to us :smile:)

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