Declining popularity of this hobby?

this is a blatent misunderstanding of how human beings learn anything. I’m SO grateful that at least in arenas such as public education we have learned from the mistake of assuming that everyone learns the same way and it’s someone’s fault if they don’t understand something the way it is presented. to suggest that because one way of learning something worked for a group of ppl that it should just work for everyone is plain wrong and misguided

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Isn’t your argument that quality of tutorials is the what is holding back people from joining or sticking with the hobby? If not then maybe I misunderstood your argument. I think that yoyo can be easy or difficult depending on how far you want to go. Many seem happy only learning and throwing basic tricks. Others want to learn the competition meta or complex modern tricks. If you are in latter camp or somewhere in between you have to be willing to put in hours of work to build up to that point. If you aren’t willing to do that then sadly, you won’t ever succeed in goal and you might find more happiness following a different passion.

Rewind has good and bad tutorials by your definitions. The detailed ones are better, but they will post a trick a day with varying degrees of detail. The best tutorials are the ones that are of a trick I want to learn.

If you are truly wanting to publish tutorials that meet the goals of new and intermediate players then I would suggest that you seek out the needs and frustrations of those players. If you are creating a tutorial without doing so then you really aren’t doing anything that hasn’t been done before IMO.

YoTricks took the time to do just that and to consider what some of the common issues players would have. Although they probably still just made broad assumptions. Also SkillAddicts exists. While many of the custom tutorials are low quality the concept of requiring players to submit videos of themselves performing the tricks is a novel approach to the learning problem. It also gives players a community built around helping others learn and an place to ask questions and get feedback.

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I definitely think there is a skill disparity between people who live in an area with many active and skilled yoyoers and can attend clubs and learn in person versus those who just learn online. Skateboarding is the same way, you’ll make way more progress if you go to skateparks and get pointers from people who can see what you are doing wrong.

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Fwiw, this is always going to be the case regardless of how good tutorials and other learning resources get. You see this happen in just about everything: e.g. fighting games like Street Fighter/Tekken are largely dominated by players who have strong local scenes despite lots of resources/the ability to practice directly online. This is because learning through active feedback, discussion and community is always going to be better than a set learning resource.

Fwiw I agree with not being super keen on tutorials that are just playing the trick in slow-mo with maybe a POV shot. But that said, I’ll still take getting those tutorials over not having them at all and the people who made them still deserve props for putting in effort to help people improve.

Side note: the title of this thread is pretty silly lol. The hobby is pretty clearly not declining in popularity.

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Yeap! Albert is the man. Him snd @GTDropKnot always help me when needed.

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Actual LOL

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Couldn’t agree with you anymore! The videos are great and straight forward they don’t need any reworking IMO! Get better and if
Your looking for something that doesn’t require skill then mayb you should not be throwing a yoyo

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thereal answer:

yoyoball to yoyo pipeline

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Following up on this thread. I made this post when I was first getting back involved with this community. I wouldn’t stand by everything I said in my post, but I do think yoyo in America is in decline in certain ways. Especially in terms of contests and competitive yoyo. The players are better than ever, but there are way less eyes on the contests now. The fact that there was only 1 yoyo contest in California in the last couple years is not a good sign for that. A few people getting a lot of social media views is not the same as fostering genuine community. Though I see some yoyo clubs doing really well now, maybe even growing, and that is a good sign.

Even if yoyo is in decline in America, that doesn’t mean it is overall. It seems like a lot more countries than ever before have active irl yoyo scenes. I have no way to really quantify this though. I wonder if anyone else could weigh in on this.

Also, it’s crazy that other users can edit my post titles like this lol.

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We can also say stuff like poop butt :saluting_face:. Idk why but we sure can

Absolute nonsense from me aside, I think that the hobby wasn’t necessarily declining when you first joined. COVID just slowed its growth cus meets are a pretty integral part of the hobby and that kinda doesn’t help something grow per se

This year Australia had a series of regional events leading up to Nats.
Adelaide club has been back for over a year and is getting busier, new clubs popping up all over.

It looks like 2A is in decline, but 0A is growing to replace it.
It would be amazing if nationals was big enough to have every division and move beyond Xdiv

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I, honestly, forgot this was a necro’d post. I was only trying to be silly and lighten the mood. Apologies mate.

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Tutorials: Anyone remember Sector-Y’s trick archive? String Tricks

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Yoyo scene is still popping in L.A. This was from 2 years ago. The DXL meets are actually bigger now. When I need help with a trick I just go and ask someone there. Usually Anthony Roja or Justin Dauer for some reason.

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It is. Come out to one of the meets. You can ask them for tips. Lots of peeps drop in. Jeremy RCS flew in from Canada to hang out with us all before. We just had Hunter F. visit last meet too. And the usual regulars of pros, designers, and casual players.
Pic date 10/06/24

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What if we live on the east coast? Where are all the yoyo pros out here?? I guess I’ll just hop on a plane because I need professional help!

In all seriousness, what even is this thread? Y’all need professional help.

Follow up question: Is there an east coast equivalent to DXL?

Back on topic. I think the hobby is on the rise. It seems like social media has been a useful tool in getting the younger generations interested and some of those kids are going to be showing the pros of today how it’s done just a few years from now. At US Nats this year, so many kids showed up to compete that they had to push semi-finals up a day. Yoyos aren’t going anywhere.

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Where on the East coast? I know theres the new york yoyo club that looks super big and fun. Yye is involved with a club but I don’t remember what that ones called or if yye is in Massachusetts or Connecticut lol there is also at least one Florida club. Uhhh i think one of the Virginias might have one? I would just make a LF Club post and see if there is one close to you. If not, you can start up a club! I know queen @Kaylinity did that in Oregon or Washington or smt and now the pics from that club look huge! Shoutout to Chicago yoyo club aka my club! My bro @Xeno started that one up after the old Chicago club evaporated and it’s been awesome!

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There is one at A2Z Science and another just north of Boston in Massachusetts.

NYYYC runs weekly and is awesome. It’s either at Washington Square Park or the mall by the World Trade Center.

I’m trying to start a local club in Westchester. I’ve thus far had low attendance :sweat_smile:

@Shapapy can you be more specific about “East Coast”?

Edit: I see NJ in your profile. Your best bet is NYYYC or Tiki Tiki.

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