Best yoyos to START learning counterwieght with?

[gart]

Im thinking maybe the duncan freehand? But i literally know nothing about counterweight. Price point doesnt really matter because i figure if i want to get good ill probably end up buying a bunch of em for fun anyways haha

EDIT: Probably should add that i already know a good bit of 1a play

[phil_the_lizard]

I know almost nothing about cw, but why not consider a yyj pinnacle?
It is really cheap and comes with a counter weight, but can also do 1a unresponsive. Just a thought.

[Bcmaddog]

For a start: Heavy yoyos are the best for 5a.

I don’t think you will have much luck learning 5a with a FH0 unless you make it unresponsive.

You really do not want a responsive 5a yoyo.

Why not use your own yoyos and but a CW?

Can you list your heaviest yoyos? Plastic is preferred for beginner 5a.

[CaliBuddha]

I started with a FH2 and an OG SpinFaktor.

[xmotoby]

I used a Protostar to start with, and I still use it. I would start with a light, plastic yoyo that you don’t really care about dinging up.

[anonyo]

@gart

Im thinking maybe the duncan freehand? But i literally know nothing about counterweight. Price point doesnt really matter because i figure if i want to get good ill probably end up buying a bunch of em for fun anyways haha

EDIT: Probably should add that i already know a good bit of 1a play

It really depends on what you like and want to use and want to spend.

If you want to go cheap, a FH2 or Freakhand with a cleaned bearing is a nice cheap start. I cleaned out the bearings in mine and the went full unresponsivie. At under $15 usually, these are good way to go. The Metal Drifter, when the bearing is properly cleaned, also goes dead unresponsive, is all metal and around $20-25 or so. Metal isn’t the best way to go when learning 5A though but the Metal Drifter is cheap enough to not have to care about.

The FHZ is another CW-oriented yoyo, but I find that stock it’s not so hot but it includes CW’s.

I found the YYJ Pinnacle to just not be weighted properly for me, but as a 5A package, it’s pretty decent, it just wasn’t a good fit for me. I upgraded to the Destiny and I’ve been super pleased. I think the Destiny weighs less than the Pinnacle, but due to how it’s weighted, it feels heavier and plays a lot better in my experience.

The Classic is a pretty decent model, just use a C bearing and and the CW of your choice and you’re done. Other YYJ models you can just add a CW to and get going I’d say would be the Legacy II and DM2. I think even the Vexed would be good too. The Duncan CW kit works just fine and I like the bouncy ball CW. The Takeshi dice is nice too.

There’s loads of other great stuff to learn 5A with. The stackless Grind Machine is a good one too.

I just recommend PLASTIC for getting started. Mostly due to durability and resistances to dings and nicks, as well as less cost. You’re gonna drop it a lot, so just get used to it.

[Bcmaddog]

@Studio42

@gart

Im thinking maybe the duncan freehand? But i literally know nothing about counterweight. Price point doesnt really matter because i figure if i want to get good ill probably end up buying a bunch of em for fun anyways haha

EDIT: Probably should add that i already know a good bit of 1a play

It really depends on what you like and want to use and want to spend.

If you want to go cheap, a FH2 or Freakhand with a cleaned bearing is a nice cheap start. I cleaned out the bearings in mine and the went full unresponsivie. At under $15 usually, these are good way to go. The Metal Drifter, when the bearing is properly cleaned, also goes dead unresponsive, is all metal and around $20-25 or so. Metal isn’t the best way to go when learning 5A though but the Metal Drifter is cheap enough to not have to care about.

The FHZ is another CW-oriented yoyo, but I find that stock it’s not so hot but it includes CW’s.

I found the YYJ Pinnacle to just not be weighted properly for me, but as a 5A package, it’s pretty decent, it just wasn’t a good fit for me. I upgraded to the Destiny and I’ve been super pleased. I think the Destiny weighs less than the Pinnacle, but due to how it’s weighted, it feels heavier and plays a lot better in my experience.

The Classic is a pretty decent model, just use a C bearing and and the CW of your choice and you’re done. Other YYJ models you can just add a CW to and get going I’d say would be the Legacy II and DM2. I think even the Vexed would be good too. The Duncan CW kit works just fine and I like the bouncy ball CW. The Takeshi dice is nice too.

There’s loads of other great stuff to learn 5A with. The stackless Grind Machine is a good one too.

I just recommend PLASTIC for getting started. Mostly due to durability and resistances to dings and nicks, as well as less cost. You’re gonna drop it a lot, so just get used to it.

I used the PGM to start, but the Classic, and Metal Drifter sound good.

[DrAwesome]

The counter attack is nice. It’s heavy and has a good shape for 5a or at least I think it does

[augmentedloyalty]

Yyj destiny, yyf genesis, MMYY N9, light up or cyclon Duncan fhz. Just to name a few

[TTTYo]

Something that is very easily replaceable because of the never ending amount of dings that will occur.

A protostar is a nice choice. Also a lot of the Magic Yoyo brand is good to start learning 5A with.

Good luck!

[yooldman]

What, no love for the Die-Nasty?

[supbreh1234]

Any of the stars.

Preferably proto/northstar.

[gart]

I actually already own a classic with a one drop Bearing and flowable in it (very unresponsive). So just throw a counter weight on and that’s a good starting point?

[supbreh1234]

@gart

I actually already own a classic with a one drop Bearing and flowable in it (very unresponsive). So just throw a counter weight on and that’s a good starting point?

YES! Ive seen some people even compete with that setup!

[Bcmaddog]

@gart

I actually already own a classic with a one drop Bearing and flowable in it (very unresponsive). So just throw a counter weight on and that’s a good starting point?

Any yoyo have that you do not want to hurt. And feels comfortable.

[JamesMay]

Start with a plastic for sure! You will destroy your knuckles. Once you are comfortable, any 1a yoyo will work.

[anonyo]

@gart

I actually already own a classic with a one drop Bearing and flowable in it (very unresponsive). So just throw a counter weight on and that’s a good starting point?

I don’t think I’d hesitate to recommend that combination. I’m planning on doing that myself. I think I may pick up one at a nearby store this weekend if I’m there just for setting it up for 5A for a trip I’m going to take and maybe leave my Destiny at home.

[Bcmaddog]

@Studio42

@gart

I actually already own a classic with a one drop Bearing and flowable in it (very unresponsive). So just throw a counter weight on and that’s a good starting point?

I don’t think I’d hesitate to recommend that combination.

Of course you wouldn’t, your a classic fan.

[mgodinez]

anythin’ recommended by steve brown

i don’t 5a all that well - i only do a few tricks. however, i have counterweights on all my yo yos. partly cause it’s nice to have the option to 5a if i want to. and i get tired of the slip knot…i’m lazy that way.

i think it depends on your style and/or interpretation of 5a play, mostly. personally, i like heavier, wide’ish, compact yo yos - w/ a light counterweight. i feel like it helps me whip the cw around, if i have to…instead of havin’ it just die on me.

lastly, whatever you decide to get…expect it to get dinged.

mgodinez

light rain…

[MYNAMEISZen]

I think yoyos shaped like die nasty 888 DNA Canvas (not specifically this throws) are good for 5a