Are Unresponsive Throws Really "Yoyos"?

[Fuzzwad]

@wishiwasayoyoexpert

So if I throw down a yoyo without a response system in it and thus can’t return it to my hand, does that make it not a yoyo anymore?

In my opinion, pretty much! But it’s up to you what you wanna call it.

[Sergio]

I’m going to call them whirli gigs.

[mr.nightshadow95]

yes, yes they are.

[AngryGumball]

@RomulusR1

However you did get me thinking… Is 4A (off-string) really considered yo-yoing? It seems to be in its own class of throwing. Without doubt it is the odd one in the group. Lets look back to what you said:
"A spoollike toy consisting of two thick wooden, plastic, or metal disks connected by a dowel pin in the center to which a string is attached, one end being looped around the player’s finger so that the toy can be spun out and reeled in by wrist motion.
dictionary.com

Lets let that simmer… :o
I want to hear your opinions my fellow throwers!

Is it still a yoyo when your string snaps?

[yooldman]

@AngryGumball

Is it still a yoyo when your string snaps?

No, it becomes a dangerous projectile.

[seanthegiraffe]

If we give unresponsive yoyos a whole different name, then i think it would be a lot more complicated to explain to non-yoyoers what they are…

[Dust (InvaderDust)]

@MikeEff

A definition of automobile is "a self-propelled passenger vehicle that usually has four wheels and an internal-combustion engine, used for land transport.

I drive a stick shift car. It is not “self propelled”. An automatic transmission might idle and move the car slowly on its own, but my car will not. I have to interact with the car for it to move and satisfy the “land transport” portion of the definition. That’s why they call it a manual car. But it’s still a car.

An unresponsive yoyo is like a manual yoyo. But it’s still a yoyo. Standard definitions need to be updated. Notice the mention of an internal-combustion engine above. Elon Musk might have something to say about that. Tell your friend it’s the 21st century, man!

I stand with Mike on this one. The analogy of automatic and manual cars is spot on!

[stuarttw]

Suppose you ask merriam webster what electricity is, and then ben franklin. Who would you trust?

[yoyodoc]

So based on all this abstract reasoning then illogical minds would indicate that: bearings that fail are no longer bearings and strings that break are no longer strings and axles that snap are no longer axles?

I have an alternate name for people that use convoluted reasoning to generate threads with no valid substance other than banter. But following Board policy, I am not allowed to use certain accurately descriptive words to identify that type of disfunctional grey matter.

So the family friendly word would be ‘Jello’.

[bhagwad]

@yoyodoc

So based on all this abstract reasoning then illogical minds would indicate that: bearings that fail are no longer bearings and strings that break are no longer strings and axles that snap are no longer axles?

I have an alternate name for people that use convoluted reasoning to generate threads with no valid substance other than banter. But following Board policy, I am not allowed to use certain accurately descriptive words to identify that type of disfunctional grey matter.

So the family friendly word would be ‘Jello’.

Is this an implication that you consider unresponsive throws as “broken” yoyos?

[yoyodoc]

@bhagwad

Is this an implication that you consider unresponsive throws as “broken” yoyos?

Would you consider an empty milk carton ‘empty’?

Put down that bucket of jello…

[bhagwad]

@yoyodoc

Would you consider an empty milk carton ‘empty’?

Put down that bucket of jello…

I’m sorry, I don’t understand you…

[MarHaiYoyo]

@wishiwasayoyoexpert

So if we put a yoyo in a closed box with a timed capsule (we don’t know how much time is on it) that will make the yoyo cease to exist, then we could say it is simultaneously a yoyo and not a yoyo, invalidating all of the definitions here.

You sir, just made my day…

[_RTD_alecto]

@bhagwad

I’m sorry, I don’t understand you…

to translate yoyodocs sarcasm and a few other words he would rather not say on family forum.

yoyodoc thinks this thread is utter rubbish… He thinks time would be better spent talking about jello then about are bearing yoyos really yoyos…

Now what i say… Of course bearing yoyos are yoyos would you say a hairlless cat is not a cat… It just doesn’t have some of the qualities that other cats have because of the genetic rendering it inherited from its parents.

yoyos with bearings are just the same as yoyos with bearings…
Yoyos with bearings just have bearings other then having a fixed axle. This thread is really just nonsense if they weren’t really yoyos someone smarter then all of us would have figured it out now and sold it under another name…

[bhagwad]

@alecto

to translate yoyodocs sarcasm and a few other words he would rather not say on family forum.

yoyodoc thinks this thread is utter rubbish… He thinks time would be better spent talking about jello then about are bearing yoyos really yoyos…

Now what i say… Of course bearing yoyos are yoyos would you say a hairlless cat is not a cat… It just doesn’t have some of the qualities that other cats have because of the genetic rendering it inherited from its parents.

yoyos with bearings are just the same as yoyos with bearings…
Yoyos with bearings just have bearings other then having a fixed axle. This thread is really just nonsense if they weren’t really yoyos someone smarter then all of us would have figured it out now and sold it under another name…

Is this thread about bearings/no-bearings or responsive/unresponsive yoyos?

[_RTD_alecto]

unresponsive throws usually have a bearing i have yet to see a fixed axle really get the unresponsive down… Well maybe gn yoyo co. text…but that also doesn’t really count as a yoyo…

[GoCrazyForYoyo (Amplified)]

Alecto and Yoyodoc are out of jello, and they simply can’t understand the knowledge of yo-yos not being yo-yos if the don’t fit uninformed/dated dictionary definitions. That’s all.

[_RTD_alecto]

@Amplified

Alecto and Yoyodoc are out of jello, and they simply can’t understand the knowledge of yo-yos not being yo-yos if the don’t fit uninformed/dated dictionary definitions. That’s all.

you callin me stupid…

[GoCrazyForYoyo (Amplified)]

@alecto

you callin me stupid…

Just stating that you’re part of the solution via sarcasm.

[Morgoroth]

Boomerangs that don’t return are called Frisbees…

I’m an English Major and Teacher so I feel like I should point out, that Dictionaries don’t define words.
People define words and the dictionary tries to put the generally conferred upon definition into words on a page.

A definition will never be totally accurate for everyone who uses the word because we all use words in different ways.

According to your definitions this is also a yoyo:

But, no one really thinks this is a yoyo.

Old yoer is right about fighting Unresponsive. I did the same thing.
I swore I would always play responsive. But, eventually I gave in to the darkside, and never looked back. It’s just too much fun, sorry Ed

For the record, I do play responsive still now and then. It’s not like you can’t go back and forth.