lol, how much faster is it?
If youâre ordering off of your phone it takes about 5-10 seconds from the cart.**
**If your shipping address is all dialed in and you have decent cell reception.
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I just canât fathom how the yoyo costs that much, even considering itâs machined the US.
I guess itâs priced that high because they are well aware customers will pay it regardless.
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This is literally only my guess/me thinking out loud and nothing else, but I bet they worked out the total cost of making each individual yoyo to be around $27 (not including shipping/taxes) and then they charge a 100 bucks on top of that, so if you have a run of 30 (which they often do), it nets them a cool, even $3k per run. Thatâs what Iâd do if I were them, especially if I knew they would sell like they do.
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I think the price per unit would be more than that if they are machined by Onedrop. $27 per unit sounds more like China prices to me.
Youâre probably right, and I thought this too, but I was thinking about how OD has yoyos like the Intro that retail for $60. The Intro isnât a very complex design, and neither are most A-rt throws, and if you estimate that OD prolly sells to retailers at around 60ish% of retail price, you arenât very far off of that $27 mark. Although the cats at OD/A-rt would probably read this and laugh cause Iâm probably totally way off lmao
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I feel if the Intro was sold by A-RT as an A-RT design, it would be sold and sell out at $127 plus $15 for shipping for a total of $142.
Remember Jensen and Charles Build Brands.
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For 6061 and a minimum of 200 pieces, which is what OD does atm, 27 sounds about right. Give or take a bit.
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I donât think itâs really about the design anymore, itâs about both companies profiting from a-rt releases, also Jensen and Charles know that people will pay more because of what they have done for the community, if you donât like the prices donât buy it or find one on the BST.
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so yall really gonna ignore companies like yyr and rso? acting like markups are anything new lol.
especially surprising hearing this coming from the same people in the community that will pay 500$+ for 10 year old monoâs if they have a heart logo on em.
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@DapperWoona
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I know right, same playbook, same price.
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I havenât really seen G2 of MFD get a lot of hate even though G2 now machines in China and charges the same prices
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Another layer to this is if you want to pay more for american machining, personally even if there is no performance or quality difference I always try to support american machine shops, this is one of my biggest knocks against YYF that they mass produce designs and can still charge 120 for a bi-metal shutter.
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Is American machining better than that available from the rest of the world?
EDIT - For my terrible grammar.
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One up 
for the grammar, from the none native⌠
The following quote is great for perspective. Yoyoben sure got that right.
Iâve been following this thread and been fascinated by the remarks.
People completely forgetting about the 2 guys on the other side of the 8 Ball. Charles and Jensen are 2 of the nicest guys you could ever meet no matter how long you live.
Their videos are second to none in both mad skills and character/almost to an art form level.
They have a sort of self imposed Black Sheep rating because that is just they way the decide to roll.
I find it somewhat disheartening that some feel so comfortable just casually discussing âwhyâ their yo-yos should ânotâ cost what they do. Because it seems ok to cut up folks if âyouâ donât like the prices on the menu.
Iâve been friends with Jensen and Charles since they were kids, lol. These guys are far outside the box.
âŚA titanium yoyo called the Fragment costs $575.
âŚMickey sells Ti and Mag yo-yos for 7/8/9 hundred dollars.
âŚRSO has the Doom Bot for $475.
âŚKentaro has the Cetus and the Soul for about $500 a copy.
âŚYoyorecreation has the Dazzler and the Seventh Heaven and the âwhatever elseâ for 6 or 7 hundred, etcâŚ
Oh, yes, I know> but these are all Titanium so they have to cost billions, lol.
None are made in the United States. But it gets better>
Dave Geigle sells the Titanic(solid titanium) that sells/sold for $275. It is easily one of the best performing, best build, beautiful Titanium yo-yos ever made and comes in a bulletproof presentation box. And it is not even a bimetal. Also, 2Sick has released several high performance Titanium yo-yos for $300 or less including a bimetal.
Where is the huge posse of Boo birds jumping on most of the Ti makers for charging a GRIP for their Ti stuff when in many cases they could probably charge less?
If you want to get out the Axe and start cutting things up. Step back and study All the price points on yo-yos you feel could/should/would cost less if people simply did the voting with their walletsđ¤
You donât like the prices? Donât buy the stuff⌠simple
âŚPerceived worth, actual value, potential value based on scarcity, etc⌠There is more to the equation than just arbitrarily grabbing the 2 guys from A-rt yo-yos and putting the screws to their product pricing.
Charles and Jensen are amazing assets in the yoyo community. They are highly skilled, intelligent and well respected. And⌠they have some excellent yoyo designs.
I got a Furn⌠I like it⌠price is just a number some canât deal withâŚ
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It is really that simple.
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So as someone who owns both the A-bearing proto and D-bearing release, Iâd say itâs right in like with their other throws. Interesting, unique, fun, and insightful. It plays very well and is quite a lot of fun with a similar response to the quail. I have no insight into their production run size, overhead, and profit margin, nor do I really care. For me it was worth it. The dimples in the side are surprisingly smooth for fingerspins and pull-starts. Feel free to disagree, but Iâd say give it a try. One benefit of purchasing a-rt is that you hardly having an issue recouping cost.
As for the Garrett, I really enjoy it. Itâs simple, straightforward, and fun. While I doubt anyone would agree with me, when I throw it, it feels like what I imagine a v-shaped Grail would.
@yoyodoc And Elvin is pretty transparent on his production. RSO took a hit on the development of the Doom Bot, which is phenomenal (not that any of this was the point of your comment).
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You know each other?