What would you like to see come from Onedrop (hypothetical)


10 grams THC onedrops had me reading the `98 Yonomicon.

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computer enhance!

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What’s the green Yoyo on the desk? I can’t make it out

looks like a terrarian

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Enhance!

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Summit teaser

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Clique 2.0

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They’re filming it, so there might be another documentary.

There’s a Terrarian, but the box looks like an edITION box so they might have both there for whatever reason.

we need a standalone hype and speculation thread for this :fire:

edit > made one

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Shoot even just another run of those and i would be happy. I hadnt seen those until now. Another one on my want list haha

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an end to the one drop bearing tax. it’s 2026 for goodness sake. every single one deop costing $10-$15 more just to make it better out of the box feels a bit ridiculous, esp when every other aspect is executed so well. it’s hard to recommend one drops to ppl when the line has to be ā€œbuy a one drop, they’re one of the very best on the market! Just make sure you spend extra on a decent bearing!ā€

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I urge you to read this thread: Flat Bearing

If you really can’t be bothered then here’s a summary…

Summary

One Drop will never switch to centring bearings because:

  • With so many bearing designs available, no matter what One Drop ship out of the box, some group will still complain that they have to pay extra to swap it out.
  • Frank Difeo (AKA Dif-E-Yo) pioneered the use of concave bearings in yoyos, and patented his design for the first centring bearing—the KonKave bearing. David feels that later centring bearing designs were created to avoid paying royalties for KonKave. Some even used the KonKave design without paying for it. Because of this, David feels that it does not honour Frank’s contribution to yoyoing to use non-licensed concave bearings.
  • One Drop never used licensed KonKaves because it would’ve increased the price of their yoyos.
  • One Drop have used the same bearing suppliers for a long time, and they are very reliable and long-spinning when compared to similar bearings.
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thats crazy to say when od 10balls (that already come free in the yoyo) are the best bearings you can get anywhere and its not even close

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SS Deep State please!

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ive read it, i just think it’s 90% nonsense. respect the patent? i mean ok if you wanted to do that for a while, esp while frank was alive, i understand that. to pretend that in this world no designs are ever taken and improved on over the years is kinda odd. patents ensure ppl that invent things get recognized and get a chance to make money before everyone else. it doesnt prohibit any other similar idea ever. frank didnt invent the ball bearing after all. would it have made sense for him to say yknow i didnt invent the ball bearing so fixies for everyone?

the argument that everyone will still complain is just coping and dismissing and it’s silly. im not saying replace all flats. what im saying is offer a little dropdown where we can select if we want it shipped flat or concave. ppl that like flats can still have em, just offer an option. other yoyo companies offer modern bearings. if everyone would just compassion no matter what, where are all the other threads complaining about their bearing offerings?

:laughing: mmk

edit: i feel the needto clarify one thing. im not in any way trying to bash one drop, just the opposite. i LOVE one drop. i love the company, the vibe, many of the designs, the guys, the team, all of that. but it just feels like a brand that’s increasingly stuck in the past. having just cone to yoyo going on two years ago, ive pretty much binged the yoyo world. as such years of yoyo play, development, and such went by on fast forward. at that speed one drop is a company that used to be at the cutting edge of design and even, dare i say, competitive play. yes i know, shocking. ppl say one drop isnt in the comp/performance category, but the thing is they USED to be. and this goes for designs too, im not just harping on bearings. if they no longer want to have a foot in that lane that’s their choice, of course, it’s their company. personally if they steered ever so slightly back toward performance and at least offered a choice of bearings they’d get the vast majority of my yoyo budget and id simp for them so hard! sadly that’s not the case and i can accept that, but i also have to occasionally try. the squeaky bearing gets the lube!

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Well do keep in mind even if they just offered a drop down with a concave type bearing that raises all costs across the board… because running a company means you have to make revenue and if it’s an option it has to be added to the total project cost which would bump all one drop offerings by 10-15 bucks across the board. Also offering more variety adds more human error, more return potential meaning more operational risk.

I’m only playing devils advocate because unlike Mk1 which is a passion project and mark on his own runs it and has a day job that pays the bills. One drop is a dedicated business with a staff and supports its team financially. So they have to weigh more risk and decisions and what lanes they want to travel in vs stay out if. In the end a bearing is pretty trivial on either end but I get the decision to simply stick with what works for them.

Not trying to argue just noting I understand the business decision. In the end most flats don’t fit my play style and I swap them but I also buy bulk centering bearings directly from a Chinese factory at 20 cents a price for a minimum lot so I’m not seeing the 10-15 dollar cost for a bearing your talking about myself because I’m a weird use case anyway.

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ā€˜Respect the spirit of the patent’ is David’s way of describing it. As in, the patent may not cover other centring bearing designs, but you could say that those designs are essentially derivatives of Frank’s.

There is no consensus as to whether those other designs are improvements or not.

I’d be very upset if One Drop switched bearings because their current ones outclass every other bearing that I’ve used.

That sounds nice in theory, but that’s not free for them, so it wouldn’t be free for you. Most likely that would end up looking like a price increase for everybody.

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A wooden yoyo. I’d love to see their take on it.

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i wasnt proposing an additional bearing. i just want the option to say i want my yoyo to arrive with this bearing vs the other. how does me having one option raise the price of someone else’s yoyo? i must be missing something.

i know agree cost benefit analysis has to be done on any business decision, but if just one person doesn’t buy an $80 one drop because of something like that, a lost $80 sale over a $10 bearing doesnt seem like the profitable moove. mind you im not claiming all these droves of ppl arent buying one drops because of the bearings, but id bet the number of times that’s happened is greater than 0

there doesn’t have to be a consensus for what i said to be true. ppl make what they believe are improvements to existing products, not just yoyo parts

which is why switching isnt what i proposed. funny how it seems like only the flat fans wanna tell other ppl they can’t have what they want :man_shrugging:

im still so confused on how yall are getting price increase for everyone just cuz someone picks up a bearing from a different pile…

I was always under the assumption that OD liked to keep their supply chain as stateside as possible and there’s no remotely economically viable source of non-flat bearings being produced in the US

personally, i have probably given away 100+ OD 10 ball bearings at this point, i take them straight out of every onedrop i get, drop in a cheap concave bearing, and the 10 balls all rot in a jar until i find someone to give them to

that being said I’ve never had quality issues with them, and IMO in terms of longevity the 10 ball bearings do better than 99% of OEM bearings once you break them in

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