Sad, but true. ![]()
Now that is really unforgivable⌠did he do this in conjunction, or after he was caught?
Jesus Heath, how many people did you scam?
Guys, not defending him, but at least give him a chance to talk and perhaps explain. You asked him this morning. Given whatâs been going on, heâs probably busy. Give him some time to respond. Thatâs like agreeing to a trade, then the next day asking why you donât have it yet.
This would be concurrent with the other money that was taken, before anyone was the wiser. Heâs only been caught for about 2 weeks.
At this point, any answer concerning charity donations besides âyes, that money was donated and hereâs proofâ can be understood as a ânoâ.
More like: agreeing to a trade, then the other person goes silent for 2 years.
Heath has had PLENTY of time to make this right and to come clean. He still hasnât made an outright confession. He dances around the questions, being very careful with what he says.
The only reason heâs doing any of this is because he was caught. I suspect heâs trying to tie up loose ends before any legal situations arise.
A few users on here are tricked into thinking âOh heâs a good guy. Look, heâs trying to make things all better.â Good people donât do this, bad people do. None of this was a âmistakeâ. Heath did this out of selfishness and greed, and now heâs finally paying for it.
See how much trouble you caused, Heath? All for a few dollars. Was it worth it?
Or, itâs like donating to charities and expecting the money to actually go to the charities. Exactly how could he explain any of this? He has plenty of time to respond. He has time to go on his Facebook page and delete negative comments, why canât he keep a dialogue going? The time for excuses is long gone. Itâs time for cold, hard answers.
Heath is only taking care of the charity money he stole, affraid of legal actions? maybe but what about all the people he scammed on the BST, Iâm one of them, those poeple will never get any compensation.
Iâm just curious of how many poeple were scammed by him, that he can not repair!!!
Cheers
I have been lucky enough to get everything I have ever bought from Heath even if it was a little late or didnât have any of the extras that were suppose to be in there but people need to speak up if they didnât get what they bought. Also I really hope you give back the #36 Ti Walker to that kid. He has been waiting for long enough and if you canât fix it then give it back to him dude.
This thread has lost a lot of steam it seems. I hope the moderators are aware of Heathâs latest posts and what they allude to
We are aware.
i have spoken to some of the mods over the phone. i cant prevent further action. i have this last receipt for everything owed.
that amount is much more than what the Happy Trees project would have netted in as each one sold only donated 25$ and only 12 were sold according to my sales history on the store
yes, i am currently repairing a Ti Walker. the owner has been contacted and it is shipping out tomorrow. if you feel you have been wronged in some BST deal or something like that, PM me. i will try and sort it out.
what i did was wrong. i am sorry that i let you guys down. i cannot prove it in any way, but it was never my intent for it to be this way. i let VsNYYCs finances get way out of hand and hurt a lot of people in the process. i have righted the monetary end of that wronging, and intend to leave now.
Everything is done, at least in my opinion. It takes a big man to hone up to his mistakes, even if he was wrong, and wrong, and wrongâŚ
But anyway, I hope you guys didnât just drive Heath out of the entire community. People screw up. Acknowledge that. Sure, stealing from charities is disgusting, but, live and let die, and hopefully we didnât just lose a great company.
I am glad that Heath has at least made restitution. I wouldnât go so far as to give him credit for owning up to it himself seeing as how every bit had to be squeezed by outside parties, but Iâm glad the money went to the charities and itâs better than nothing at all.
But, as for this community, I donât think what youâre asking is realistic. Weâve discovered that this has been taking place over multiple projects for years, and itâs all been covered up with deceit. Forgiveness in this circumstance is accepting the fallability of humans and letting go of oneâs anger, but it does not involve âlive and let liveâ wherein Heath gets to jump back into the fray like nothing happened. VSNYYC as we know it is gone because weâve discovered it wasnât a great company.
Thanks good you took care of the money part of this mess Heath. Also glad the #36 Ti Walker is going back soon. Wish I didnât happen like this. Thanks for the great throws. I will cherish them forever no matter how ugly this mess got.
Mistakes shouldnât dictate your life⌠at least not ones you can fix.
As far as Iâm concerned this is over. It seems to me that Heath has corrected the parts he can correct, what more can you really expect? He seems genuinely apologetic about it. You can forgive him or not, but he certainly shouldnât have to leave an entire community.
Was it wrong? absolutely, nobody would argue that. Should we be upset? again, of course we should.
The money got where it needed to go, life goes on.
Kyle
I have wondered throughtout all this ifâŚ
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Heath would sell his company to someone more trustworthy like vega or doc (not necessarily those 2 but you get my examples)? Heath could continue as a limited partnership only to be the designer and engeneer to make yoyos. He could keep say a small percentage of profit after expenses. lets face it, his YoYos are good. Thatâs all heâs good at though, making them. He needs someone else at the helm. Be organized, be trustworthy, and hold the company to the highest standard.
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If that was to happen, would the YoYo community except VSNYYC back? Could the community except him back if he wasnât in charge or responsible for anything except the quality and workmanship of the YoYos themselves?
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If not, can Heath sell VSNYYC to someone else all together (design plans and all)? Would the community except VSNYYC that way?
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Or if we are just content letting this company and itâs good designs fade away into history.
I honestly donât know right now which is better. Maybe the mods could make a poll across all the forums to see what exactly the community as a whole expects of heath. Itâs only fair the community decides as it was the community that suffered the consequences of his actions (the ACS was effected to but it casted a dark shadow on all of us and misinterpreted our good nature).
I also would like to thank doc and Vega for taking a 50,000 candle watt powered searchlight and lighting that shadow away with a well quick response auction on ebay. You guys are the best! Bravo!
So what if he designs good yoyos. If someone handed any of you the money to have a yoyo of your own design created, I bet itâd play good unless you pay no attention to what makes a good yoyoâwhich is pretty obvious. Itâs just a narrow range of parameters. Diameter: 50mm-58mm; Width: 36mm-46mm; Weight: 60g-70g; Shape: just copy a popular, proven design and put your own tweak on it. Bam. Take that to a competent machinist, and you too can be a âgoodâ yoyo designer. The Skywalker is not some magic bean that you should trade the family cow for or anything like that. Who gives a rats *** if Heath makes good yoyos?
Newsflash, EVERY high-end yoyo released in the past few years and into the foreseeable future is a good yoyo. Thatâs why everytime thereâs a major new release, people are gushing in the review forums about how itâs one of the best theyâve played. All new yoyos are best. Itâs harder to design/make a bad yoyo than youâd think as long as you arenât ignorant of what makes a yoyo goodâwhich is as easy as noticing details in the yoyos you already like. You can even take a chance on an âextremeâ design and half the time those are good players too. So the dude can design a yoyo, whoopty-do⌠anyone with a pen and paper, enough money and the phone number of a good machinist can do that.
hahaha Iâve never noticed for some reason thag all new yoyos are âthe bestâ,thatâs pretty true. Which is why you decided to switch it up and make a bad one ![]()
Iâm completely joking, Iâm pysched for the Answer.











