Unpopular opinion: People only say good things in yoyo reviews and leave out the cons too much

I recently bought a MYY V8S and the pads, bearing and axle all had to be replaced due to poor QC. After doing that though, it plays well for a yoyo of this price.

To review this would be hard. The design of the yoyo and how it plays is very different from the customer experience. I myself am not bothered having to change things out, I do that anyway. If I was newer to this, something like this could certainly change my entire perspective.

Its all so subjective, its tricky.

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This is something I think allot of people don’t understand.

There are boutique brands like Mk1, g2, etc who order the parts, assemble, test, then ship your item relatively local to you if you in the US. Even brands over seas it’s just an extra week of transit. Then there are large brands like Myy who assemble and test everything overseas and because of quantity they are testing random objects in a batch instead of the entire batch.

This results in a lower QC but there’s another part folks don’t think about.

Shelf life. The bearings have lubricant and don’t like humidity but they are in a crate on a ship and at ports with high humidity. The pads don’t like high or low temps yet they are sitting in warehouses for weeks/months. Myy if off the rainforest site and not a new model may have spent years in a warehouse with questionable environmental controls for these products. It’s not like the bearings are fresh in a sealed bag or the pads right off the line. These items that do wear out and degrade over time if not kept at a normal temperature are often subject to non ideal conditions.

It’s the same condition really old yyf b grades have. They sit in a hot warehouse in AZ with thankfully low humidity but high air particulate (aka dust) and over time the bearings get crunchy and the pads just fall right out.

It’s really comparing apples and oranges in process and expectations.

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Quick correction - the yoyos I sell are usually assembled at the factory (in China) and tested twice: once at the factory, once more at my house. Sometimes I catch bad bearings when I’m testing, but it’s also possible for a bearing to be fine when I test and then go bad any time after I ship them out. I replace bearings if the time between purchase and the bearing going bad is reasonable (eg. within a month or so).

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I guess that makes sense they still aren’t sitting in storage for months

I know some don’t do that as they get the halves then have to send them off for ano and junk and pads aren’t added till after ano

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Humidity can affect bearing life? If you lived in a humid place say Florida do you think your bearing can get damaged by playing with it outside?

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This is definitely a thing and i know @Albertino has spoken about this like saying he would go home to the coast and bearings would go bad quicker. Also ppl w cats lol silly but seems to be true like ppl w cats gotta clean bearings more frequently .

The bearings thing definitely sucks like get a new yoyo and the bearing is fine for a sec and then stops being fine and you gotta swap it. Literally just happened to me with the h5 leaf I got. The bearing was great for like 5 mins then went totally dead and wouldn’t spin at all. Bearings are super random like some work great forever and some just suck. I have spare bearings and just popped a new one i know works well in the yoyo. Not sure which one that was specifically now bc i put it into my pile of bearings to clean. I am not sure if it will be good after cleaning or if it will be dead forever . If i knew it was dead forever, i probably would hit up the lodge or c3 for a replacement and it is cool steve was so upfront about replacing them. just cool to know brands are cool about replacing bearings if they die right away. I definitely believe steve when he says it bothers the brand more than us.

Honestly the bearing thing is like a problem now like they die right away, way too often. Apparently the quality of bearings used to be better and more consistent but idk just anecdotes I heard from OGs.

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Yeah, the moisture can lead to corrosion theoretically. But also, the string absorbs moisture and that can corrode the outer race of the sting is left on and it isn’t played with for a while after.

I’m wondering if the “moist” string filaments that break off and work their way into the bearing are also a contributing factor. Strings for sure have a different feel after some short time out in this bs east coast humid summer heat vs inside in the blessed central air.

Some bearings I have cleaned under microscope have had corrosion, the original bearing from the tiFHZ PiF that @Snorlaxative420 has comes to mind. That bearing was so destroyed I swapped it out with another bearing from a FH that I had also given to him after he accidentally melted his with Acetone. I told him it needed a bearing when I sent it to him.

Anyway, uhh… yeah so, moisture does shorten bearing life, one way or another. Steel wants to rust so bad.

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Yoyo reviewer here, I’ll chime in since it’s relevant.

I try to keep it real in all my videos/on my tierlist. Emphasis on try. I’m fallible. There could be any reason on the planet for me to fail to mention a flaw in a review/video.

  • The designer is a friend, so I get rosy glasses
  • It’s the sig of a player that I’m friends with, so I get rosy glasses
  • I just don’t notice
  • I’ve said enough negative and don’t wanna keep piling it on in fear of sounding like I hate the yoyo, especially if I don’t hate it.

As I get more “in” the community and make friends, I wanna be honest-- but I don’t wanna make someone feel inadequate. Especially if it’s a small company that really doesn’t need me bashing on every flaw of a design publicly, in a video about their yoyos. I don’t do this almost ever, but admittedly, I have before.

But I’ll be honest, the reality is that people don’t like it when you’re negative about a yoyo or yoyos in general because it violates their “good vibes”. Which is, like, fine? Idk. If you have the audacity to say that a Yoyo has flaws, then you harsh the vibe. You invalidate a purchase, and you burn someone.

Yoyoing is probably one of the most hyper-consumerist hobbies I’ve been in. People love to buy buy buy in this community, and because it’s a small community, it’s generally good. But the drawback is that people will ceaselessly praise and adore mediocre or even outright bad yo-yos because there’s some random “cool” factor.

Not every yoyo is good these days. Just because they don’t need to be modded or they look cool doesn’t mean they’re all magically good. It just means they’re interesting or enjoyable.

But just because something is buns doesn’t mean it’s not fun. I would know, I just finished a plate of Little Caesars, absolute garbage food, but I still like it lol.

Now, as for why I don’t have video after video or tierlist review after tierlist review of me absolutely REAMING yoyos?

I’m not gonna buy a yoyo I don’t like just for a video. And if I know I’m not gonna like a yoyo, I usually refuse a review unit. I don’t like being negative.

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Well said.

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Not trying to be argumentative buuuuuut…

You never had a problem bashing YYRec’s Comic Sans, lol. That sound when it hit the bat! :rofl:

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Humidity and high or low temps definitely impact yoyo parts life.

While the ano body of the yoyo and even the ss axle should be fine the bearing is a part that wears its self down over time and those contact points that get worn can experience corrosion if left damp for a long time especially if exposed to salt water.

Playing your yoyo outside or getting it wet is fine as long as you dry it when stored and store it in a dry temperature controlled space. My honeybadger is a testament to that. I play it at the local pool, beach, on a boat, etc. it gets wet and then when I get home I take it apart and dry it thoroughly before reassembling. It’s been just fine.

I’ve seen old stock in packaging yomega that are rusted at the axle and bearing because they had the string on and where stored in a garage or non temp controlled warehouse and the string quickly absorbed moisture and then damaged the bearing over time. You’ll even see corrosion on the seat where the ano may have been taped off and the yoyo was left raw.

Extreme temps can also cause plastic YoYo’s to crack just fyi. The metal hub will expand and contract with heat and cold and those stresses can over time damage the plastic even if it’s just sitting in a box.

Long and short of all this is the yoyo will be fine if it gets wet but if it’s stored in a damp place over time it’ll accumulate corrosion and extreme temps like storing your yoyo in the car can mess with pads and plastic.

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Mechanical keyboards and sneakers have entered the chat…

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Ohh I have opinions on keyboards!!!

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I do feel mechanical keyboards as a hobby have gotten better for hobbyists in the last few years. I got out because I literally could not buy things I wanted without ridiculous BST mark ups or 6+ month wait times on group buys. These days it seems there are a few newer players in the space that have worked to improve availability and in stock items.

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truer words have never been spoken lol.

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I will also add - in statistics, especially when looking at customer reviews/surveys, there’s a disproportionate response rate in both extremes (loving the product or hating it). It’s less common for someone who falls in the middle to leave feedback about a product, especially when it comes to preferences/subjective views.

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Now that you mention it I don’t recall a bearing ever going bad on me back in the day (2004-2011). Granted I bought way fewer yo-yos but still pretty incredible given the vast majority were from TheYoStore which was in Hawaii, not exactly known for its low humidity.

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Unrelated but your review of the emotion is what convinced me to buy it and its been my favorite yoyo of all time so thanks.

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I’m glad you found something you liked. A lot of people’s opinions on yoyo are subjective, they also have different characteristics. For example, I could love this organic yoyo because it’s so comfortable while a professional would say it’s a hindrance to performance and this triple cut yoyo is much better for horizontal. Also, I saw you bought Duncan, unless it’s a bimetal, I wouldn’t even bother with their yoyos they are kind of outdated and it’s more nostalgia type vibe with them. Even Dylan Kowalski (youtuber yoyo reviewer) slammed them a couple of times and he loves Duncan and grew up with that company.

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Evolve is an outstanding, modern Duncan monometal

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