says it can’t be found when i click link
i agree with these complaints
this reminded me of a danny severance trick that i think is just a way better execution of the same idea in the yotricks trick
theres no tut but it looks really easy to learn
after trying both these tricks i have realized the chopstick is literally the exact same in both of them lol
i still do think the danny one looks slightly better though
I like the danny one bc the magic drop is cool
my agreement that i expressed in my previous reply has changed since learning the trick and thinking about it for a bit. i now think this trick is actually quite good and will try to explain why by responding to things you said in your post
“then you just exit back to trapeze in the most uncomfortable way possible.”
whenever i first watched the video of the trick i agreed with this, but after learning it i realized why this was this case. the person in the video does a pretty poor job of doing this trick justice with his execution. he keeps his NTH still for most the duration of the trick, which in general would be good practice, but for this trick i think it feels and looks much better to move your NTH with the momentum of the yoyo. when i started doing this, the trick started to feel and look really good to do (shown in video below). i think doing it like he does in the video is why you think it feels so uncomfortable.
“Trying to force a chopstick exit to trap when you’re already in trap just feels kinda weird to me, like I don’t understand what the point is”
if this were a normal yoyo trick i would actually agree with you, but this trick is made to be a repeater. repeaters do not follow the same logic and construction as a normal yoyo trick. the entire point of a repeater is that they are pointless; you do something to end up right back where you started so you can do it all over again. since i don’t have much experience making repeaters, i can’t really say what makes a repeater good or bad, but i think that this trick both looks and feels good to do.
sorry if this way of replying makes it sound like im attacking you. i just didn’t know how else to share my thoughts lol
Similar, but I think a couple steps harder - probably a good one along with chopsticks chop to have as “if you’re familiar enough with the trick or get it down quickly, try these” options.
And of course the week we get a bunch of interesting trick discussion on the thread is one where I’m traveling internationally
Deeper level trick discussion is always good, and you made some really strong arguments for why somebody would like this trick.
I don’t really enjoy doing repeaters a whole lot to begin with and my comment definitely has a lot of that skew in it to begin with, but especially not repeaters that start and end with a trapeze.
Trapeze is such a universal mount with infinite possibilities that I feel like especially when a trick is just one or two steps removed from trapeze and immediately back, it feels half baked to me. It’s like the equivalent of just doing mount exploration, getting a kink, and then just making a GT and saying “trick finished.” Just rushing to find some way to give it finality to say trick over, rather than putting in more time to find a more unique/complex.
I think you could take the motion of the chop exit from this trick and do it into a different mount or with a different wrap that doesn’t merely put you back into trapeze, and I’d like that way more. I’ve definitely seen Yoshinori Kawamura do some cool stuff with a similar chop transition.
But I guess to concede there is an appeal in simplicity, but I feel like this is just a bit too simple to really be appealing to me.
Yo it’s cool to see the trick discussion fr! I will add my opinion that I’m not the biggest fan of this trick bc there’s just other chopsticks repeaters I would rather do, but I do love mechanical tricks where you can focus on a technical element. This trick fits more into that category for me—tricks like black hops, where even if you don’t plan to perform the trick ever, it is still good to learn bc it will help with mechanics to improve an aspect of your yoyo game. This trick has that pull through chopsticks and that is good practice for an admittedly awkward chopsticks, like that was outside my comfort zone and I appreciate the TaWs that push me to learn something I probably wouldn’t have learned otherwise and out of my comfort zone.
interesting takes! so I’m gonna post my thoughts ahead of actually posting what I’ve been working on.
usually I’m working these tricks at least several days ahead of posting them so that i can theoretically help when others have trouble with an element. this time, being ill right up til posting i only learned it as everyone else did and i have to say I’m inclined to agree with much of what has been said and i may have shifted direction at least somewhat given more time. i do think that this is a good basic intro to form the chopstick c in a less punishing way. i think it looks better from the outside than it feels to perform, which is an interesting feeling. i def think @Phlox is right that it looks and feels much better the more side to side flow you give it. i started out envisioning it as just an element in a larger chopstick flow and based on the other vids yall shared, it cemented that idea. as a standalone trick, i agree @mable it feels lacking. I’m trying to pair it with wax on wax off, but it’s been…tricky trying to get them to mesh. it might not pan out after all, but I’ll get it on film tonight for better or worse lol
great discussion and good to hear ppls thoughts on tricks! i really enjoy discussing elements beyond just “here i am”. also helps shape direction of future tricks, so thanks for the feedback!
still feels disjointed. i dunno, it’s hard to get the fingers switched up in the loop during the transition. in all I’m more happy i learned wax on wax off but hey, live and learn
Yo this is cool but i think you executed the wrong trick. You want to land on the front string like when you drop the string, there shouldnt be a slack like that.
There was tension on my string, this aint a slack. I saw it on video after filming. Couldn’t be bothered to film again…
I just watched the video again. Seems you sre right. Will film again tomorrow.
I stand corrected Sensei!!!
I saw what you were talking about. There was no slack since there was no pinch. I was however hitting the wrong string. It has been ages since I had learned this trick and the muscle memory hadn’t quite kicked in. Thanks for the feedback man!