You can’t expect any thread to go more than 5 pages without a little nonsense.
I just posted pretty much the same thing on another forum. Yes, yes, yes!
There’s another forum?
What if my stock bearing IS a string-centering bearing? In one sentence you say the stock bearing is all I’ll ever need, yet you go onto say that string-centering bearings are a joke, proceed to list a couple of cons, and then state flat bearings are where it’s at. This would indicate I should replace my string-centering bearing with a standard flat bearing. How would this save me money?
I think you would have been better of saying the stock bearing is all you’d ever need (flat or string centering), and leaving it at that, then maybe I’d agree with you.
There is obviously a reason many manufacturers choose string centering bearings over standard flat bearings, and it’s not just marketing.
The problem you state “String gets centered yes, which sauces layers to get bunched up on top of each other. This causes more possibility of snags, and also causes suicides to not open as well.”
I have never ever experienced this problem with snags and suicides not opening as well. In fact I’m able to get more suicides out of Summit with a Buddha bearing than a flat bearing. I’ve gotten over 20 suicides with that bearing, while flat bearings I haven’t been able to. In my experience, this bearing has IMPROVED my suicides.
I have encountered many times the stated problem with standard flat bearings, while playing through combos, not just staring at my yoyo sleeping.
How do you explain that my experience is the opposite of yours. You don’t have problems with flat standard bearings, I do. You have problems with concave bearings, I don’t.
Also if we’re talking about yoyo experience since we were kids, then I have 25 years experience yoyoing. (I’m 31, my first yoyo was an orange Duncan imperial when I was 6.)
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Your experience being different is interesting, as My conclusions can also be backed by many other players who have been throwing for a while, simply a phenomenon I suppose.
When I say the years of my experience, I speak in terms of more modern yoyoing.
Something to keep in mind.
When you are starting out, a low-walled rim weighted yoyo with a string centering bearing makes a world of difference.
Once experienced, these things don’t matter so much and perhaps the experienced players forget how steep the initial learning curve can be. There’s nothing wrong with leaning on the training wheels at first, then going full fixed or high walled and flat or whatever once the experience points are up.
Especially when you are starting out, play what gets you to stick with it and not give up.
The type of threads where a pro is telling all the noobs what is up feel a bit ungracious at times.
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[quote=Josh]And I can honestly say without a doubt, that I have never EVER found a bearing that did anything more than “hm, that sounds a bit different”.
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I call 110% BS.
You are lying and you know it.
You claim to be some yoyo guru but you expect me to believe that in 15 years of yoyo, you have never put a bearing in a yoyo and went wow that sleeps awesome, way better.
LOL.
BS 110% without a shadow of a doubt.
I dont care how you try to deny it, I would never ever believe that statement.
Never lol.
PS: as if you could even remember every single bearing change in 15 years, you said it not me, get over yourself RUFF RUFF.
Here’s the bottom line:
Modern yoyos come apart.
You can replace the stock bearing for a different bearing. You can experiment until you find the bearing you feel works best for you and that yoyo. Shaped, flat, grooved, beefcaked, whatever.
After that, who cares what anyone else thinks. It’s all about preferences. It only matters to you what you find is right for you. If someone disagrees with you, THEY are wrong to criticize your preferences.
I buy what I like, I play what I like, I experiment with bearings and configure things the way I like, although honestly I find the stock bearing is often sufficient for my needs, and often times it is a flat bearing. I really don’t care what other people think. If I like how the configuration works out, then hey, that’s a win for me. I wish everyone here the same type of success in their adventures in yoyo.
Preferences: That’s what it’s all about!
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I agree with the rim weighted yoyo, but not the bearing. I started out on a dm2 like a lot of people did. A few weeks in, I was hearing on the forums that ceramic kks were the bees knees, and they just made everything 1000x better and easier, so believing the hype, I ordered one. When I got it, I put it in my dm2 and didn’t feel a difference. It was quite underwhelming really.
I call 110% BS.
You are lying and you know it.
You claim to be some yoyo guru but you expect me to believe that in 15 years of yoyo, you have never put a bearing in a yoyo and went wow that sleeps awesome, way better.
LOL.
BS 110% without a shadow of a doubt.
I dont care how you try to deny it, I would never ever believe that statement.
Never lol.
PS: as if you could even remember every single bearing change in 15 years, you said it not me, get over yourself RUFF RUFF.
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I don’t quite have 15 years experience, but I do have about 2 1/2, and I can honestly say I’ve never put a bearing in and though “wow, that sleeps awesome, way better.”. Point is, just because you may have been amazed by a new bearing, doesn’t mean everyone was. Don’t be so quick to call bs on an opinionated statement.
When you argue with Josh it’s worth knowing that he begins with these premises:
- What he writes are universal truths
- He is a mere conduit who serves the universe when the universe needs these universal truths conveyed to others
His posts also suggest that he doesn’t understand why anyone would find these premises faulty in anyway. Just something to keep in mind when you bait him.
Also, God complex - Wikipedia
Regarding the topic, I’m not too particular about bearings myself, though I do have to clean them regularly because I have a cat and cat hair has a way of finding its way into the bearing. I will say that I like stainless steel bearings, mostly because I’ve had non-stainless bearings corrode and go bad and it’s nice to not have to think about it. I also play my bearings lubed because I’m old school and cool like that. 
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I’ve never really found yoyo bearings to be an actual “controversial” matter until this thread, so when Josh said it will stir things up, I guess he wasn’t lying.
Shall we change the name of the this topic to “Random Rants on How We Think Josh Likes to Act All Cool N’Stuff”?
Wow, I’m surprised you couldn’t feel a difference when using a ceramic KK. I noticed a difference in smoothness and spin times immediately. For me not only was it NOT underwhelming, it was jaw-dropping. I wonder why some of you are so desensitized to bearings. I’ve tried Dif-e-yo concave, dif-e-yo concave ceramic, terrapin, terrapin x-wing, terrapin ceramic, terrapin x-wing ceramic, center-track, one drop 10-ball, YYF Spec, YYJ Speed, Trifecta, Buddha (basically a Trifecta), generic crap bearings, etc. If I could only choose one bearing it would be a one drop 10-ball. It’s a quality bearing, smooth, last a long long time. But I also do enjoy the smoothness and spin times that ceramics provide. I love the combination of smoothness and string centering qualities that the trifecta and buddha provide. I can definitely feel there is a difference between bearings. Having a quality bearing makes yoyoing much more enjoyable.
/r/throwers
So, after reading the intire thread, what it seems to me is that many of you look to the bearings other than flat as much as a placebo for the other yoyoers? Well, even a placebo can do his job. 
I’m not agreeing or disagreeing of what was written here, this is just my opinion.
I was surprised to see a thread this blown up about bearings. Then, I clicked it, knowing it it could only mean one thing. FLAME WAR.
Read the first few pages, eh, boring.
Skip to page 7. Full blown arguments, all posts about the arguing, no serious discussion about the main purpose of this thread. Gonna have to rewind a bit to find when the arguing started.
You guys are mostly grown men/young adults. Mature, intelligent people. And, on a public forum for YOYOS, you are arguing like children, smart children albeit (mostly) about which kind of BEARING IS BEST IN A YOYO. Look at yourself. You are an adult who is arguing and fighting with someone else about a tiny object inside of a toy. And it’s not like this exact same argument hasn’t been repeated innumerable times…
Todays society makes me proud! :
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An argument is nothing more than a discussion in which two sides debate. Argument is good. I don’t see anyone fighting. No one has resorted to name calling that I can tell except patrick condon calling people stupid and moronic… Now you calling us children. Nothing wrong with friendly argumentative debates where each side argues their point.
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1.
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Of course we are arguing about yoyo bearings on a public yoyo forum. Where else would we argue about yoyo bearings?
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Yes because presenting something like you did:
is certainly /two/ sides debating a point with valid reasoning behind it in a respectful manner.
Also, there absolutely has been heat for no reason, including calling straight up “loss for respect” and accusations of making up experiences.
Again, no one resorted to namecalling but you. He was wrong, IMO. I wasn’t being disrespectful in saying that. I wasn’t calling him names. I was stating an opinion. What right does anyone have to tell someone else what they need? That’s for ME to decide, not you, not HaruRay. He was not merely presenting his side of the argument as opinion but as fact. I also made the post when at break at work where I didn’t have a lot of time to write entire paragraphs, but felt compelled to respond. If you haven’t noticed since then I’ve contributed quite a bit to the thread.
However, you were being disrespectful. What right do you have to disrespect someone by calling them stupid and moronic? Are you a moderator? I feel compelled to contact a moderator or maybe even Andre.
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Grabs Popcorn
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dis gon B gud. grabs da popcorn
EDIT you ninja’d me*
