So I’ve been using my deepest state with the greaseball bearing and I’m finding it to responsive to the point where i can’t even do simple tricks like the braintwister. As soon as it flips the yoyo has so much responsiveness it auto grabs and messes the trick up but if I use the stock bearing I have no issies.
The greasebucket bearing makes it so difficult and frustrating that I don’t know if I want to use the bearing anymore
You have to break it in.
I bought a grease bucket but never tried it. The Deepest works so well right out of the box
I love the grease bucket. It’s harder for sure, but at least to me part of the appeal of playing a responsive is being forced to have good control over the yoyo.
The grease bucket is giving you feedback in a way the stock bearing doesn’t, in that you’re not keeping the strings taut enough while in-mount.
If you decide its not for you and want to sell it toss in a plasticnbag and an envelope and ill give ya a couple bucks for it.
Got a Deepest State of my own coming soon from a fellow YYE member. Im stoked!
I play with ZR Air and this string was a bit too thick for the stock setup. I pulled the stock pads out and put standard 19mm in with the Greasebucket.
Greasebucket should definitely not disallow tricks like Braintwister (even with thick Fluff string which is what I use). I’ll second that as the bearing breaks in it will get a little less responsive, but they are designed to mimic the attributes of a really responsive fixed axle so it shouldn’t feel like any other bearing on the market in that respect. Just like there’s a break-in period with it, there’s abslolutely a learning curve associated with how to get the most out of it.
Is your string tension low/neutral? I recommend throwing a bunch of hard sleepers to extinction with the GB to see if that chills it out a little.
I fully agree on Ed and Mable’s points. That bearing in a Deepest State is quite capable of Brain Twister, Matrix and others. It does require more precision as nothing in this hobby is supposed to come easy. If you learn to control the string tension and response on that setup your skills will improve across the board. A responsive yo-yo is looking for a little bit of slack in the string to grab hold of so it can return. Keeping the strings tight during tricks keeps the response under control. You also need to move slower as quick movements also trigger response.
Also… maybe you just prefer semi-responsive. Some do. Not everyone likes everything the same and most people’s opinions will change over time with experience.
To be honest I do like the semi responsive and unresponsive more. I don’t think responsive so much honestly. The more I play with the deepest state at stock I enjoy it way more
The first part of learning is toughened a bit because you are also learning what you do and don’t like equipment wise. Remember this when/if considering fixed axle as the greased bearing is meant to mimic fixed axle play.
Correct. As I use my yo-yos in starting to learn what I like and what I don’t and after sing the bearing since I got it I don’t like how responsive it is and I like the semi responsive.
I’m enjoying myself more now and starting to learn a lot more. The skills addict app is really good. Video quality is excellent and the explanations are top so I’m having more fun
Fun really should be the goal at all times. 
Ok I’m going to be that weirdo here who found the GB out of its package close but needed just a bit more packed in when I got them. I was also not running my current fat nylon string. I’ve never done anymore to them since I got them back in November and their responsiveness holds up, good reliable. I’m sure they’ve broken in too but I’ve also since switched over to some fat nylon (Zipline “Stranger Strings CS124”) and that was the chef’s kiss my Deepest States needed. Haven’t done braintwister with it but have had varying (mostly) success with Split the Atom which tells me I need to work on my technique, snags do ocassionally happen 
