Hey guys, I’m new here and just getting back into throwing after about 5-6 years of not doing so. I was just wondering if I could get some recommendations on some of the newer throws out there! Price isn’t too* much of a concern if the product is worth it! From what I remember CLYW, One Drop and a few others are some of the top of the line brands, but I’d love to hear from you guys!
Welcome back to the hobby. Do you have a preferred shape and weight?
welcome back! i’m partial to a few one drops myself, and clyw has always been good. one drop recently made the thorn which was a loving throwback to the spiked days. from what i’ve been gathering in the mail day thread, it’s pretty good. they also have some intros which is a safe bet if you want a budget metal and a gauge of how one drop’s stuff feels.
clyw released the much lauded beater but it’s a bit hard to find because it’s all fresh and new. but really, lots of stuff is “top of the line” recently. so many great boutique stuff! GWAY, Thesis, Atmos, Zero Gravity, Dressel Designs, MK1 this rabbit hole just keeps on going! just get what appeals to you. if you’re from the mid-school days and love organics, today is a great day to be a collector haha
Thank you! No preferred shape, the H-shape of the Aitch intrigued me because i’ve never thrown one but that’s about it. As for weight, I actually like a little heavier throws. I’m definitely not a speed guy or anything like that so I don’t like too much floatiness.
Sounds like I can’t miss! What are you currently throwing, if you don’t mind me asking?
Hey a fellow lefty! How is the H-shape? Never thrown one and was wondering if they’re awkward at first or if it’s even noticeable?
another left-hander here haha. i’ve been throwing the goji by atmos recently. their organics have these big response bumps that they feel like H yoyos almost. my experience, it shouldn’t be that awkward to use at all! if you like a bit of heft then H is the way to go as i usually feel the weight in them a lot more. i tow around a speedaholic xx for daily carry purposes, so good for a plastic that sort of has an H shape. definitely a solid recommend that one!
Another lefty checking in!
CLYW and One Drop are highly rated.
There’s a ton of smaller niche companies as well. Gway is one of my favorites. Motion Yoyo for that High End Bimetal (I think there’s still a Perpetual available somewhere at another store than YYE.
YoyoFactory has good throws in almost every price bracked.
I’ve not tried Duncan (not very available here in Europe) but I’ve heard the same said about them.
For a cheap affordable but good quality throw get a MagicYoyo You won’t believe how cheap they are but they play VERY well.
Honestly…nowadays it’s rare to get a bad yoyo from almost it seems.
Get what you like the look and price of and you’ll rarely be disappointed.
This was very helpful thank you!
I’m happy you mentioned H-shape’s are a little heftier, I do like that. May have to check out the Speedaholi
Seems like you’re pretty interested in H-shapes.
H-shapes tend to play on the heftier side of things, due to their extreme rim weight. This also means that they’re very powerful and pretty stable. You can feel the power of the yoyo when you throw it down. However, for a yoyo to be H-shaped, it cannot be too wide, otherwise the shape is no longer a H. The diameter to width ratio of a H-shaped yoyo has to minimally be 1.30. A great example I can give you of a H-shaped yoyo being widened such that it’s no longer a H-shape would be the Iceberg V2. You can clearly see in the pictures below that the Iceberg V1 is a H-shape, but the Iceberg V2 looks more like a V-shape.
Iceberg V1:
Iceberg V2:
Also, because H-shapes usually pack on a ton of rim weight, there is a pretty steep rise from the bearing/response area to the rims, which would make the yoyo less comfortable than most other shapes. The extreme rim weight of H-shapes also tend to make such yoyos play reluctantly, which means the yoyos don’t change directions very easily and needs a lot of pushing to change directions compared to other shapes like the ubiquitous V shape, which makes them not very fun to play for some people, especially speed players. There are exceptions to this though, and the OneDrop Aitch, the Mowl Surveillance, the Mowl Surveil and the iYoYo Titanic are the few H-shapes that somehow manage to be nimble on the string despite their extreme rim weight.
To sum up, H-shapes pack a ton of rim weight. As a result of that, they tend to feel heftier, more powerful and more stable and they usually play reluctantly and aren’t as comfortable in the hand as other shapes. H-shapes also can’t be wide yoyos, so don’t pick a H-shape if you like a larger width but want the diameter to remain around 55-56mm (they have to get larger to get wider as they need to maintain the diameter to width ratio of 1.30).
I think the slope of the straight steps is the main thing that makes something an H.
Example: (56x56mm)
Or is it the slope of the response bump… hard to tell I guess. Anyhow, I agree that the new iceberg has the design sliders more in the step-straight or V direction
I should add that having played both icebergs, they feel very similar in play other than the width. The weight distro is pretty similar between the two, on account of the similar construction and design goals.
Yeah it is hard to tell. The yoyo shapes aren’t really well-defined, especially for O and H shapes.
That design you showed made me realised that it’s probably the diameter to trapeze width (basically the width of the catch zone) ratio that needs to stay above a certain threshold to be considered a H shape.
This was extremely helpful so thank you very much! I actually tend to like the more hefty/heavier throws and am not a speed guy so the H-shape might be the way to go for me right now.
You’re welcome! Glad I am of help to you!