That’s a great idea, I’ll just use my time machine to find out when all my interstate family members will die, when natural disasters will destroy my home, and when I’ll suddenly die of a stroke.
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Again this is not the first time, you’re acting like there’s no history and being willfully ignorant to seem like the good person in the situation
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If someone has a legitimate unexpected hardship they can clear things up at a later point but in the meantime people should be warned about potential scams. Negative feedback on a yoyo forum isn’t exactly life ruining, so I’m not sure what the moral panic is for…
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This is the dumbest take you could possibly have in a thread where people are confirming repeat issues about this guy…. Like yeah, not all circumstances are equal, but it takes two minutes to message or post about delays or huge shifts in circumstance. does he have no obligation to people who have paid him for goods that he hasn’t delivered? Because his situation may be one we’re sympathetic towards? Cmon now.
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So I’m obviously falling on board at the end of the train… And I read a lot of the responses… But I didn’t read every word of every response… So excuse me if I miss something crucial.
I do have a question though. Was this a friends and family transaction through PayPal?
It should be understood that I probably on the short side of too much information. Which means maybe I just don’t have enough information?
But I figure on this particular thing I have a 50-50 chance of being right or wrong… That’s why they call it 50-50, lol
Because if you used PayPal… And you used goods and services… On $200 goods and services would’ve cost six bucks. And if you didn’t get your stuff, you could get your money back.
If on the other hand, you used friends and family… In a transaction with a person, that’s not your friend and obviously not a member of your family… Then instead of dropping an extra six bucks… You dropped the whole 200 bucks…
Realize, then, if you did use friends and family option, I don’t think your punishment should be losing your 200 bucks. There is nothing funny about that. Everybody knows I joke around all the time. But I don’t joke around about stuff involving money. Homie don’t play that. I am old school… You play you pay. You play and you don’t pay? You’ll pay.
The reason I even posted up a reply in this thread was because I’m staring at your original post and thinking to myself… If this guy Used PayPal and the goods and services option. Why is he even complaining about this instead of just getting his money back and then writing his epic saga but why he had to get his money back?
Anybody that’s been on this form long enough probably recognizes that I’ve written some short volumes on why people shouldn’t use friends and family with people that aren’t their friends and family. PayPal is not a nonprofit organization. They are a for-profit company that makes money by moving money. The friends and family option is basically a bonus that they offer to people that frequent PayPal in order to save them a couple bucks when they are dealing with actual friends and family. I’m certain they weren’t counting on people making them out to be suckers and wanting them to make money moving transactions For nothing or next to nothing.
So Thomas… If you didn’t even use PayPal whatsoever and used Another way of sending money to Ed, my apologies.
Just consider my post a temporary jacking of your thread to make a public service announcement about why you should use goods and services when you do use PayPal.
I personally hope you get something… Either the money or the yo-yos enough to call it even and then move on and just not deal with Ed again.
I do agree with a few folks that you didn’t need to make a separate thread about this. You should’ve put it right in Ed’s feedback thread… Obviously you would’ve posted at the bottom, but it would’ve bumped it to the top and everybody would be on the same page Without being looking at a thread about the same guy in a different place.
What really sucks to me is to get hosed this time of year around Christmas. I guess I’m not that big on Christmas one way or the other. But I guess ever since I was a kid, during the Christmas season I always feel like people should just be happy And do good things.
Maybe the guys a Grinch?
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I’m a recovering addict and alcoholic. Part of that recovery process and a key part of the fourth step of 12 step programs is looking at resentments I may have and thinking of what my part in it was.
It’s fair to assume that Thomas didn’t do goods and services. The whole thing would be moot if he had. It’s also fair to assume part of why he’s upset is that he didn’t do G+S and it’s easier to blame Ed than look in the mirror. Believe me, the fourth step is a bitch 
Another reason I mention my recovery is because I can empathize with addiction and addiction could be why Ed does this periodically. He might be in jail. He might be dead. He might be neck deep in a bender or crippling depression. That’s not to excuse it or condone it, just an explanation. He’s not doing this because he wants to gleefully ruin somebody’s day.
We don’t know why, and we can’t change it. All we can do is change ourselves. And if we’re buying from someone with a history of doing this, that means dropping another $6 on G+S.
Putting him on blast in multiple threads and doing daily updates on how you’re still real mad and how you still haven’t gotten a refund doesn’t actually change anything, especially because there was already these posts in the other thread which were ignored. It’s emotionally cathartic and it redirects inward frustration outward. It’s about feelings.
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Ed needs to be put on blast until his obligation to these buyers is either fulfilled or he’s banned. I understand feeling sympathetic towards him for whatever reason, but commenting things like “this is about your feelings” is plain stupid. Of course his feelings are hurt, he’s been scammed, idc what previous interactions you’ve had, at this point he’s out $200 with no recourse, that sucks and he should be putting Ed on blast.
What in the flying ■■■■ are you talking about?!? Speculating about the scammers likelihood of relapse or depression? What good is that to anybody? Do you go through every negative feedback thread and make excuses for those scammers to? Come on…. Like. I get the sentiment, but get real. It’s free to send a message, Ed has an obligation to make the transaction right, and Thomas is being more than reasonable (if not long winded) by making this thread.
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I feel like both things can be true.
I don’t find it unreasonable to make a new thread about a current sale involving someone who has had well-documented BST issues and who (imo) just shouldn’t be allowed to sell/trade here.
AND it’s not unreasonable to ask WHY one would ever buy from someone using F&F given that history. I really prefer the bass and uke forums I’m on in terms of how strict their BST rules are (you can’t even suggest “F&F” without having your account restricted).
In any case, I feel I have a bit of personal stake in the matter since I actually pride myself on prompt shipping and this dude is clearly tarnishing the name of “Ed” (I emphasize the capital here). Hope this gets resolved.
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I bet you’d have an awfully different perspective if you’d just given your 200 to the dopeman, back in the day I know I woulda. That’s what all this sounds like to me. Maybe Ed caught a habit, maybe Ed caught 90 days in the county jail.
What in the actual ■■■■ is going on here? Are we actually giving some guy grief over him airing a 200$ grievance? Is that real? I for one am GLAD he posted stuff like this to warn others. Why does this thread propagate itself? Cause we keep answering. Sure, it’s a bit verbose, but nevertheless.
Also, I know it sounds cold, but all those problems… those are HIS problems. WTF?? No one handles mine for me, that’s for sure. When I fail to meet my financial obligations, no one pops out and says, “Hes broke, but he’s a really, really good person.” Who cares? No, send me what I paid for.
And yeah, maybe he shouldn’t have sent it f&f. However that doesn’t give someone else the right to behave like a scumbag.
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I think at this point all have made their point. This is going nowhere.
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