Hey it’s not cheating! Haha. If you can turn the weight rings you can do the rest! Maybe next one I’ll try completely manual on the G0602 only.
As for the bearing pockets, the entire thing is one piece aside from the bronze washers. These washers are made to very tight tolerances, as are the stainless pivots used for the axles. It’s a very similar setup I use for a lot of my bmx components I make and it works out really well. Allows the use of larger tooling that can be run a lot faster as well as allows the washers to be replaced easily if for some reason they are crushed from over tightening. Can’t really do that with a one piece setup. Just my take on it anyways. Nothing really wrong with either style.
I’ll take a photo of all the pieces layed out individually if you’d like. It’s an extremely simple system.
I ‘could’ do the rest, but my lathe is under-powered and removing that much material from a block would take many hours.
I didn’t mean to say your setup was bad, just that I prefer a one piece design when possible… setups like yours have been proven to work for a long time (I actually use an insert setup on my delrin yoyos). It’s just that I like to make things as ‘simple’ as possible (fewest parts, fewest places to have a problem). In the 16 years I’ve been doing this, I’ve never stripped out a yo-yo, but I know kids that have done it over and over again.
I do applaud the clever use of knife parts btw, never occurred to me to use those, which is surprising as I’ve made a -lot- of yoyos and I own a lot of knives
My yoyo uses the 1/4" pivot that we sell. I cut the head off on my lathe and set it up as a barrel pivot with two screws. I float the barrel between the halves on the screw and can tune the yoyo buy moving the barrel closer to one side or the other. So far it works awesome!
Good job on your first home built! I did a bunch of wood before I moved up to the Ti! I am getting a new lathe with a DRO soon and then I might try making another.
After I cut this one up for this yoyo I got curious if you had used one in yours. Saw you mention side effects quite a bit but nothing definitive regarding the pivots so wasn’t sure. It’s such an awesome setup for these. Best pivots by far too man. All the folders I’m building use them.
What lathe do you have/are you getting?
Yeah man these pivots are amazing. Unbelievably consistent in fit/finish and dead nuts on size. The setup I have is actually extremely simple and makes machining much much easier than the stepped setup. Nice thing is too if anything crushes it’s going to be the bronze washers which are easily and quickly replaced. The gap is also adjustable with different width washers. I’m bias but it’s a slick setup.
Finally found your site. Man that’s awesome! I’ve wanted to do something just like that with all the custom bike parts I make. So cool!
Right now I have a jet 13x40 and I am upgrading to a 16x40 with DRO and Collet closer. This also moves me from a bxa qctp to a cxa and offers much more rigidity.
My first yoyo I made SE compatible but it took so long to do that the second time around I just used a pivot!
I can’t tell you how exciting it is to have people around who are making stuff again. For the last several years it has only been me and a small handful of modders still around in the US (japan is a different story).
yes I get ‘why’ that’s the way it is, but there is more to mods than performance. There is also a ton that can be done by ‘making’ vs. just modding… as shown in this thread.
That’s going to help a ton especially with the tougher materials. Ultimately its all about speeds and feeds even with manual turning but rigidity is never a bad thing! Can’t wait to see some shots of the new machines.
Just moved my Fadal into the new shop this morning. The rest will follow this week. Looking forward to finally setting up my Logan lathe and Reid surface grinder. We didn’t have enough power at the old shop, nor the space.
Yeah, the pivot is stupid easy and too perfect to not use as an axle. Its almost as if it were made for a yoyo! Glad I have a bunch on hand. May add an oring around the head to grip into the shells though so I don’t have to spin them out all the way with my fingers.
Would be rad to see a list of the main dudes and some links to threads I gotta check out. Been lurking hard for a bit and have seen some great stuff but I’m sure there’s a lot I’m missing.
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Thanks man! I got my start in modding bmx parts, then started making them from scratch. Enough demand caused this little business now one of the leading mfg’s still in the US making high end bmx parts. Expanded into all things I’m into. Knives, firearms, pocket tools, now tops and yoyos.
I cut the head off on my lathe and set it up as a barrel pivot with two screws. I float the barrel between the halves on the screw and can tune the yoyo buy moving the barrel closer to one side or the other. So far it works awesome!