Ethics of Parting With Gifts [yoyos]

I think, once I give away a yoyo, it’s no longer mine and I have no right to tell the receiver what to do with it. Still hurts when I see it sold or traded but hurts way less when I see it given away. I will never voice it though because I don’t think I have a right to make someone feel bad for doing the thing they wanted with the thing they owned.

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Is it the gift or the giving that has value? Do you need to keep an item to remember kindness? When someone offers you a gift you aren’t really into there are ways to politely decline. Not judging just throwing out some thoughts to possibly consider. One more thought, it is possible to gift an item for reasons other than kindness. Should one feel obligated to keep such a gift?

I like pizza! Back to dinner.

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If anyone wants to continue the “ethics of selling a gift yo-yo” discussion, I suggest doing it here.

I feel like the consensus conclusion reached here was correct though:

  • gifts belong to the person being gifted, utterly and absolutely, and they can do whatever they want with the gift

  • it might be considered “polite” to have a holding period after getting a gift, but that’s entirely at the discretion of the person being gifted (see first bullet point, above)

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I didn’t read through all the replies…but enough to feel like I’m in the minority here…

But my feelings would slightly be hurt if someone sold/gave away the gift I gave them.

it really depends though.
If I just give it to some random stranger…sure, they can do what they want with it!
But lets say someone online says they broke/lost their favorite yo and are so sad about it…and so I decide to send him out a little care package. If he then turns around a week or 2 later and sells the stuff…then yeah, it’s honestly going to hurt my feelings.

So I guess it depends on the reasons I’m giving the stuff away as well. If it’s something I’m pouring my heart into…really reaching out and trying to do something awesome…then I feel like it’s only natural for me to feel hurt if I feel like it’s not appreciated.

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I personally believe the joy is in gift giving itself. tbh I don’t care what the recipient does, it just makes me feel better to have graced someone with my generosity

does that make me selfish? :thinking:

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Lol…I wonder the very same thing sometimes! Cause sometimes I like to do things and give things to people because it makes ME feel so damn good! Like I’m really making a difference for that person.
So even though it’s giving/doing for them…it’s also totally selfish because I’m also doing it for my own good feelings haha.

In the end I don’t think it really matters if it’s technically selfish or not…what matters is that it’s being done for good reasons…both for me, and for them. Nothing wrong there!

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I’m a little bit in the middle.
First I should say I see a big difference in something you won(contest, giveaway, etc) and something that was gifted. While the gift is under new ownership, and they are welcome to do with it as they please, I can also understand why someone would be upset if they then saw that person selling it. Especially if it is immediately after it was gifted. I wouldn’t say it’s unethical or anything, i just view it as kind of a crap thing to do in the face of someone’s generosity. Personally I would rather trade it or give it away if I didn’t like it - there’s just something about attaching profit to something I was gifted that feels slimy to me.

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everything wins :smile:
in the end, yoyos are still going places and people are still getting a chance to partake in such an awesome hobby

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imo it depends on the giver/sender and their intentions. If something means a lot to me, I’d limit the people I share it with to the people I trust that mean a lot to me. I believe people who send things away without detaching themselves from it are the people that are responsible for whatever mess that results.

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If the gift giver is fine with the recipient selling their gift they are overwhelming classy, decorous, and a better person than I am.
I genuinely hope that one day I became a person who could turn the other cheek in such a situation.
Timing is definitely a factor as well.

One mans opinion, wish I could let this horse die in peace.

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I definitely wouldn’t say anything to the person or treat them any kind of way because of it, but I would definitely have that initial feeling of “well, that’s kinda lame”. Nothing lasting, but to say I wouldn’t feel any kind of reaction to it would be a lie.

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I tend to carry a cheap Duncan with me to share it with kids that are really interested.
But I i can tell you that my best friend’s husband was quite generous when he gifted me this lot of his yesterday.
I still just can’t believe it. Even in the Zeekio case! :partying_face:
It just wasn’t his thing.

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Ohh neat seeing as this is back from the dead.

This exact scenario happened to me not that long ago . I gave someone just starting a case and a bunch of yoyo stuff and a few yo-yos for free to get them started and they turned around a month or so later and sold it here.

In the end it wasn’t mine anymore. I would have rather they give away the stuff to someone else in the hobby starting out but Its not mine anymore. If what they needed was 50 bucks more than a yoyo then I figure I gave them that to some extent and hope them well. It’s discouraging but a gift is passing ownership to someone else. You no longer have say in what that item is used for or how it’s dealt with.

I’ll probably give other stuff to new people and it’s likely a similar situation will happen again. Such is life. It’s also rough out there right now so I get exchanging whatever you don’t need for money.

In the end I just hope that whatever good I send out will continue to spread in some way maybe not through the original gift but through the individual.

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Actually and I’ll make this a separate comment.

On the topic of giving and exchange I’ve been a part of several giving communities. Our local church we do a parent swap meet and at the end of the month the items unclaimed are donated during those swap meets the nearby homeless community is invited to come by and anything they could use they are welcome to especially in the winter this provides warm clothes and such to people who need it in our area.

Every area I’ve lived I’ve been a part of a buy nothing community. The idea is simple give unconditionally in your local area. Pre covid the hope was to treat it like lending a cup of sugar to a neighbor you spark community and fellowship but post covid it’s become more of an exchange of items. In my current home there wasn’t a buy nothing chapter and we started one in our area.

Running the buy nothing there are folks that sometimes do things that are ethically dubious. A local pawn shop owner would collect high value items and resell them at top dollar. A guy was collecting furniture for a while refurbishing it and then selling it at our local community yard sales. Some folks would join multiple local buy nothing chapters and collect things from several communities and resell them. Folks would collect kids clothes and put them in their consignment stuff. Several people would only collect never give. The oddest one was a lady who collected a bunch of toys donated them at a party at the marina for raffle tickets to a prize. We also had a lady who collected items and then donated them to the police departments toy drive getting on the newsletter for most toys donated for clout. In the end it is what it is. Some folks will do things not in the spirit of giving but the hope is the same people will get good out of it in some way and the items given will have new life and not just sit in a box or in a shelf or thrown in a landfill.

Maybe this mind set comes from living on the other side when I was younger and relying on food pantries and church food drives for a period of my life but I think giving without expecting anything is critical for a healthy and strong community.

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:100::fire:
Life taught me that lesson a long time ago. It was a frustrating one to learn. We have the same problem here with people waiting to jump on the first free things listed that they can get and then reselling them. But like you said, we don’t know their story for the most part. Once it’s gone it’s not ours.

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I would never sell or trade a yoyo that was given to me. I treasure them too much.

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Once I give something away I really don’t mind what the receiver does with the item. For me it was a gift for them, if its ran its course and they can put money into their pocket from that gift or gets them a new thing they want, that sounds good to me!

I have received gifts which I have sold in order to fund other things. The way I see it, it’s just stuff. Sometimes when it has a lot of sentimental value those things rarely end up on the list of things to move but it still happens here or there occasionally.

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I personally sold 2 yoyos that were gifts, I ended up regretting it heavily later and searched them out. Luckily one of them I was able to get back the exact same yoyo, the other was the same model. definitely wont be doing that again.

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honestly money is way more useful than the yoyos, so if they need one more than the other, no big deal in my eyes

sometimes people are more invested in this though, and for good reason! sometimes you spend a long time hunting down something specific, or it was a pain in the ■■■■■■ get, or there’s a good story/sentiment to share, etc.

so I guess whenever I give a yoyo gift I always explicitly tell the other person to feel free to do whatever they want with it :stuck_out_tongue:

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