^ This. Mr Gumball I spent yesterday evening experimenting with my MOVE to try and figure out how to help, and I came to the following conclusion:
Your finger must be kept as soft and relaxed as possible to begin with. As Brian said, once it’s in the dimple spinning you don’t have to keep it soft (I was spinning my MOVE on a pen yesterday like Greg mentioned and had no issue), however for the first jump, you have to keep it as loose as possible.
Now this is easier said that done. Since you’re aiming your finger for the yoyo, the natural reaction is to ‘point’ the finger or otherwise keep it rigid (even unintentionally), but as long as you keep it completely relaxed, the move will naturally slip onto the dimple.
I tried landing like 20 fingerspins in a row with a stiff finger and didn’t land a single one. Did the same thing with a relaxed finger and landed all 20 easily. It really is the key.
Also, I don’t mean to be critical, but I noticed in your instagram video that the way you throw for the fingerspin seems to be the same way I did to begin with, which doesn’t work all that well. If you throw it with your thumb pointing up, sort of like a frizbee, then you can keep the yoyo as horizontal as possible (which is also very important).
Rather than throwing it to your left hand side, try holding the yoyo to your left and throwing it towards your right foot. It took me a while to get the hang of it but it makes all the difference.
If I’m not making any sense please let me know and I’ll film a video.
Just so that I’m not trying for the impossible, I’d like to understand a thing:
I have a yoyo with a flat hub. Say, an OG Pulsefire or a Krown or an Irony JP.
If the yoyo stays at a slight tilt, I can fingerspin for a decent amount of time, riding on the “transition” between the flat hub and the cup walls. Eventually, it goes completely horizontal and then the whole thing falls apart.
If I throw completely horizontally and hop up, the whole thing falls apart.
With a flat hub, is it virtually impossible to get those 1-minute spins? I have always assumed so, but it looks like other people are disagreeing and I wanted to make sure my understanding was correct.
Or in other words, it seems to me that you don’t really WANT to go fully horizontal with a flat hub. You’re just asking to spin out, and you should probably finish off your fingerspin trick before that happens. However, you DO want to go fully horizontal with something with a concave cup or with a “channel” (ie. Mo-Vitation).
Is that a fair assessment, or is it just that I’m still not “getting” flat-hub fingerspinning? With the flat hub, it wobbles out almost as soon as it’s fully horizontal for me.
A pen is a solid thing, sure, but if he hold it soft enough, it can balance itself out just like relaxed finger. It’s not a matter of how rigid it is, but if it has “wobble range” wide enough to balance itself.
Do you have a top loaded washing machine? because it works just like that. It has some kind of springs so the clothes inside doesn’t have to be too balanced, the springs allow it to balance itself out. If there is no spring, the whole washing machine will wobble too much it may tip off or break its axle.
Actually it might just be me, but it seemed like the Jp2k13’s cups were ever so slightly concave. There were a couple times I could get it in the center.
I’ve been following this thread but somehow missed your post until today. Trying the technique you mentioned with the thumb up has actually been a huge help as for a while I was struggling to get a decent horizontal throw. Doing this helps set the yoyo up for being horizontal.
I’ve been playing with some finger spins over the weekend and am getting a feel for it, keeping the finger gentle while I land and kind of feel around for that center on those yoyos with dimples in the middle. Also keeping the string tight helps getting my finger to find that center and control any wild spiraling that begins to happen.
I’ve now been able to spin my Puffin (Grindwinder?) as well as my Aluminum Dream. It’s not true finger spin but more of a horizontal grind as it rides the wall. Still lot of fun and pretty cool.
I do have the other two…