CLYW YETI

[PlasticWhip (WildCat23)]

@JetEyeNight

@WildCat23

The Delrin Severe is just that, Delrin. It must be machined, a far more expensive process than injection molding.

Where did you get this incredibly flawed information? Do you have any clue how much it costs to create a mold? Multiply that cost each time you make a revision to the design.

Companies that use injection molding make up the money spent on molds by selling thousands and thousands of units at thousands of hobby shops and toy stores across the world. Do you expect Chris to be able move the same number of units and to have the same distribution that YYF, YYJ, or Duncan has? There is a reason most small yoyo manufacturers don’t branch out into injection molded yoyos.

Here is a post from Steve Brown in the CLYW manufacturers thread. If anyone knows anything about plastic yoyos, it’s Steve.

@Steve Brown

Got my Yeti in the mail today. (Being the old guy who’s been around forever does have its perks.)

Really fantastic bit of work on these. They play great, feel wonderful, and also feel absolutely unique…I’ve never thrown a plastic yoyo that felt like this one. The material is pretty amazing, and it’s really crazy to get a 68 gram plastic yoyo without any kind of weight rings.

Congrats to CLYW…the Yeti is a huge leap forward for you guys.

Another glowing review of the Yeti.

Are you even tying to understand? Let me show some figures to see if you are.

Injection molded plastic
$20,000 start up fee
$4 per yoyo (Its’ share of the start up burden)
$0.35 per half
$0.50 for everything else
Lets say he does 5,000 total

4+.35+.35+.5=5.2 $5.20 per unit to manufacture. Chris would probably double that ($10.40), then YYE might double that.

All in all, $20.80. That seems much more on target. Lets also do some other numbers with our hypothetical figures:

Chris would make $26,000. It would take all units to regain the initial start up cost. However, that is factored into the cost of the yoyo, so any profit you calculate is pure profit. If he sold the first 1,000 direct, he would make $15,600 the moment he sold the thousandth.

On to metal yoyos

For the sake of simplicity, I wont factor in set up cost.

$18 for machining (Both halves. And here alone the cost is much more than that of the Yeti. And, it isn’t a variable based on the number produced.)
$10-$20 for anodizing (Actually, we should keep that as a constant, so $15)
$0.75 for box, stickers, and guts.

Would be priced at $67.50 wholesale (Again based on a 200% markup)
YYE would sell it for $135

Now do you understand?

Also, yes, I expect Chris to be able to move similar amounts of units as YYJ YYF, Duncan and others, so long as they are priced competitively. One last thing before I leave this thread completely, I never said the Yeti didn’t look good , play good, was understable or anything of the sorts. I only said it was priced very high.

EDIT I am not “anti-CLYW,” I just don’t feel like the yoyo’s perform at their price point. In fact, I like most of them, I just wouldn’t pay retail for them (And I’ve saving my money for something else).