I agree though I tend to give local and state leaders some leeway for their early responses since they’re dependent on the CDC and federal government for guidance. It’s tremendously easy to criticize them in hindsight but the decision to shut down NYC and essentially torpedo the state budget/revenue can’t be an easy one.
That said, yes, once it became clear how terrible this was, quicker action should have been taken.
If those who govern you make these counts … you are not put in good hands!!! 
I know…but still…HERD. It’s like on The Walking Dead TV series - a huge group of reanimated corpses / zombies is referred to as a HOARD.
Absolutely. My initial post sounded way harsher than I intended. Shutting down NYC literally impacts millions of people, from those who work and/or live in the city to those who may be put in the position to cancel their once in a lifetime trip to NYC. It really was a no-win situation. Shut down early and it isn’t as bad as people thought, you are chicken little. Wait too long and it is your fault the city became the hotspot.
I’m glad I’m just a citizen…
I agree, “community immunity” may be a kinder and gentler term (and, it even rhymes, which is always good when you want a catchy description). However, I think herd stuck because with livestock, it is not unethical to run controlled experiments to see what the minimum percentage of animals need to be vaccinated is to protect a greater population from disease. That is what it should be all about, understanding the numbers game.
Well it only works if you don’t have idiot anti-vaxxers out there 
(Sorry not sorry if anyone reading this is an anti-vaxxer. Educate yourself using actual science!)
Also reminder the “novel” in “novel coronavirus” means NOBODY is immune to it at the start. Zero humans are immune to this at the outset. Because it just jumped (probably from bats who are super social and have crap immune systems) to humans.
Can confirm. Caught a bat in my house the other day and he told me it’d be fine to share 1 straw
I thought political discussions were banned on this forum.
I see no reference to politics here? p.s. VOTE GENTRY STEIN 2020!
it’s toeing the line
Interesting. I can’t help be see it infused throughout the thread. It doesn’t bother me, as I love discussing and debating politics. There are moments when I wish there was an adult only section on here to discuss just that, politics. Then there are other moments I’m grateful there isn’t. Prolly not a bad idea for YYE to keep us focused on what unites us rather than what divides us.
have you browsed the Throwers Brawl? We welcome all…
heck yeah I agree
Thank you, sir for writing words I was too cowardly to write myself. Well said.
The last theory was bats to pangolins to people. Likely due to the pangolin not being cooked to a high enough temperature.
i wouldn’t say cowardly, just respecting the bounds of the rules of forum…
but since the boss took the gloves off…
From the article posted above. Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research | Nature
Although almost all coronaviruses isolated from bats have not been able to bind to the key human receptor, SHC014 is not the first that can do so. In 2013, researchers reported this ability for the first time in a different coronavirus isolated from the same bat population2.
The findings reinforce suspicions that bat coronaviruses capable of directly infecting humans (rather than first needing to evolve in an intermediate animal host) may be more common than previously thought, the researchers say.
The study findings “move this virus from a candidate emerging pathogen to a clear and present danger”, says Peter Daszak, who co-authored the 2013 paper.
I feel… Like there’s something admirable about a culture in which people still look their food in the eye before they eat it.
that’s why i always sit across from my guests when i have them for dinner…
