Can someone please articulate what it means to be a comp yoyo??? Can’t any yoyo be a comp yoyo? Everyone has a different style so what might be a comp yoyo to one might now work for another??? Cant all throws be “comp” yoyos… I mean… Just look at this video… Using an organic and that thing looks like it could win a competition to me lol. Personally… I don’t think there is such thing as a comp yoyo…Obviously some throws are better at some things than others but again everyone has different styles and needs. Curious cause I always hear… its fun but not for comp. I mean gentry did win nationals with a plastic replay pro lol
I think when people talk about competition YoYos they are referring to a yo-yo that is optimized for performance/stability. Art are optimized for fun. I can probably land most of my tricks on my grail but probably will have better odds of landing a lot of them on my draupnir od .
In the end though it really doesn’t matter what you are throwing.
Kimmet along with many other proved early on that a any yoyo becomes a competition yoyo when you are truly a passionate and great thrower and put that out on the stage…
now marketing wise a lot of companies are designing yoyos in ways that make them as quick and long spinning as possible with an optimal shape to land as many tricks as possible- usually some type of v or w shape… but I think in the past 1-2 years the shift back to organic or rounded throws shows a realization of my previous statement that even the most “optimally” designed throw is nothing if the person doesn’t put in the time and creativity to win! haha my 2… or maybe 10 cents
someone who practices and creates hours every day, consistently with a plastic yoyo is going to put more out there then someone who has the newest sharpest bi metal throw but lacks the creativity and work ethic
It probably depends largely on the current competition meta. A lot of the tricks you need to truly compete these days are hard to do on an organic, like horizontal play.
I think everyone else already answered your question, I just came here to say this is my favorite yoyo performance of all time. Well, except for Sunshine Jimmy’s performance that year. That dude is unstoppable.
Philosophically speaking, no, I’m sure you don’t. But practically speaking, if the winners are putting horizontal play into their routines, don’t you pretty much have to do the same to have a decent chance of winning? How many recent national or world champions had routines that could have been executed properly with organic yoyos?
The “competition” coined term to describe a yoyo is purely just a way to describe a yoyo for marketing. My personal understanding of this term describes a yoyo that can basically handle any style and is stable. Speed, tech, body tricks, horizontal—pretty much the standard meta style tricks you see nowadays. However, I don’t know when this term was first used to describe it, but if I had to guess it was around the time competitors stepped up the way tricks are performed on stage.
If you dive deep into what yoyos are coined as “competition” throws, they all will likely be relatively v-shaped and have good stability.
Organics tend to also lack stability and spin time compared to most compotiton throws. This doesnt mean you cant win a competition with an organic yoyo.
I agree with you honestly I have a Yoyofreinds koi and even compared to some bi-metals it can hang with them. However I still think that “competition” yoyos do perform better than organics. Organics really dont have as large of a catch zone compared to a v shape, making it harder to land tricks. Again, you really dont need a “competition” yoyo to win a competition. It just helps when your on stage, you want all the advantages you can get.
I guess I just love me some organics and feel it wouldn’t really hold me back from learning anything… If anything only makes me better cause it can be a bit more challenging. I also feel like some of my tricks are easier with a few of my organics and makes regens easier
Your logic is correct. Any yoyo can be a comp yoyo if you actually use it for a competiton.
The thing is that when players are competing, a yoyo having certain characteristics (like width and stabilty) helps amp up their trick landing consistency on stage, which is very important for obvious reasons. A trick missed can make the difference on a podium (see gentry vs evan on wyyc2019).
When you hear “its fun but not for comp”, thats just a mashup of different concepts and opinions filtered through a case of broken telephone.
When a yoyo presents a design that does not have the objective of aiding the player with their consistency on stage, then thats usually called a “non-competition” yoyo. Not because you can’t use it on comp, but because it doesnt have the characteristics mentioned above that could help a players with trick landing consistency.
Over the times, people just midlessly repeat that, creating the sort of misinformation phenomena that you are wondering about right now.
I focus on things like construction, width, weight and even brand choice. I think its very interesting to see how the trends (and also the deviant data) on those types of yoyo characteristics look on a real life example of a competition.
